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Should calling Chinese people who are Pro-China brainwashed be considered racism?

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I've seen no shortage of posts in the Reddit these days about how the CCP is brainwashing their citizens and was wondering if saying that would be racist. On the one hand, it does dehumanize those people, as it is basically telling them that their opinion is not only wrong but that they shouldn't even have that opinion in the first place since it is an opinion that they did not gain of their own free will, on the other hand, the claims of brainwashing are only directed at Chinese who are Pro-China, not Chinese who are Anti-China, so it does have a lot to do with opinion.

Edit: I think that the same should apply to Pro-China people calling westerners brainwashed by the western media, although that does occur less often.

 
Posted : 04/10/2019 4:46 pm
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I'm not pro-China in a nationalistic sense (being non-Chinese). Though I'm getting tired of white knighting hypocrites and the bias coverage of the Hong Kong RIOTS is such an obvious sticking point. How can you criticize the action of the police there, when such actions wouldn't be tolerated by western law enforcement? Also these white pro-democracy shills don't say shit when there are protest in Okinawa against US military occupation which has resulted in rapes and murders or native Hawaiians protesting against desecration of their sacred lands.
The actions of white people's so-called god mandated manifest destiny has resulted in slavery, police brutality, overthrowing democratically elected governments, the genocide of the natives, invasions of other countries resulting in the death toll in the millions, use of chemical and nuclear weapons, etc. are literally crimes against humanity in every sense.

 
Posted : 04/10/2019 4:49 pm
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Yes, and the thing is that westerners don't understand how Chinese socio-politics even work, let alone us Chinese or those of Chinese descent.
China is, has been, and will always be a socio-political enigma, and I prefer that way because a) China isn't the West, b) China has a billion people with a several-millennia long history of golden ages and civil wars. Throughout the ages, China has been and always will be authoritarian, whether we're talking about moderate pragmatic authoritarianism (as in the case of post-Mao CCP) or absolute totalitarianism (as in the case for Mao-era CCP). Even in dynastic times, China was always authoritarian, and even during Chiang Kai-Shek's rule until the 80s, the KMT was simply authoritarian as well. In the end, China is authoritarian because China is a massive country with a massive population and high levels of regionalism. It doesn't matter if the CCP or KMT was in power in the Mainland, China will always be authoritarian for the better, because let's be honest when you have a billion people and several spaces of land to govern, not to mention the occasional regionalism, sometimes you gotta enforce law & order to maintain a stable foundation needed to build a modern, prosperous China; A modern China Sun Yat-Sen had always dreamed of.
Honestly, don't let westerners' opinions ruin your faith on the Zhonghua Minzu. Political sides don't matter, regardless if you're Taiwanese, Hong Konger, or Mainlander. Don't put other Chinese people down just because they live in another China with another government. It's better if all Chinese people put aside their differences and instead follow Sun Yat-Sen's idea of a strong, cohesive China. It's why I respect the CCP, KMT, and pro-Beijing Hong Kongers; despite different political ideologies they still believe in Sun's idea of a strong modern China. Westerners' don't care who's in power in the Mainland, all they care is seeing Asians fighting against each other. It's why western conservatives unironically support the protesters in 1989 when in reality those protesters we're actually democratic-socialist communists from China's new-left against the hardline faction of the CCP, but sadly westerners prefer looking at things in a simple basic binary rather than using any cognitive thinking to understand the vastly-different politics of another nation.

 
Posted : 04/10/2019 4:49 pm
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It pisses me off, but it's not racist. What is does demonstrate is a close-mindedness and belief in being absolutely correct, even without knowing everything and only basing their own opinion off of the opinions of others. Ironically, it is they who have been brainwashed - brainwashed into believing that China is bad without question, brainwashed into believing that Chinese people are all brainwashed, and yes, brainwashed into believing that Chinese people cannot think for themselves. That last part IS racist. Fuck anyone who thinks we didn't arrive at this conclusion ourselves. Fuck anyone who thinks they know better than the Chinese what to do with China, and fuck anyone who stands in our way.

 
Posted : 04/10/2019 4:51 pm
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No, it's not racism. We are fed all sorts of information from all sides including Western, anti-CCP Asian, and pro-CCP Asian media. Our opinion is only limited to the type of information we get or choose to receive. One can say anti-CCP media is brainwashing people as much as pro-CCP media is brainwashing people. Manipulating public opinion has been commonplace practice ever since the beginning of organized society.
What we all need is a good hard look at fundamental human rights, and make an opinion based on critical thinking. I personally believe that promoting proactive critical thinking is arguably better for humanity than government-sanctioned indoctrination. This applies to both sides of the coin.

 
Posted : 04/10/2019 4:52 pm
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