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We Welcome All Points of View on Hong Kong (and Topics Like It)

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here have been a number of posts here on the Hong Kong protests. Even though this sub focuses on issues in the West, there are parallels that people see between what's going on there and here mainly in terms of Asian-white dynamics.

HOWEVER, while many here are Chinese-American and many who are not like myself have questioned the nature of the protests, I want to make it clear that this sub takes no official position on the topic, and views that are more mixed or outright supportive of the protest are welcome here. There is no "right" answer on this.

The other day I had a conversation with a SE Asian acquaintance. I was explaining my POV on why I though the protests had been hijacked by Western forces. He listened but then explained Vietnam's history with China which I was familiar with but he emphasized his sense of powerlessness vis-a-vis China. And that he saw the HK protestors as brave for standing up to China in a way that he felt the Vietnamese were never able to.

While I did empathize with him while still not believing this justified what these protests have become- I could understand how his perspective adds a worthwhile dimension to what largely has been seen as an "East v. West, white vs. Asian" dichotomy.

This sub encompasses all of Asia; differing views are welcome and no one should feel intimidated from raising them. I would also encourage those who are against the protest to resist downvoting dissenting views to oblivion. Of course, rebutting such arguments is perfectly justifiable.

An open exchange of ideas will benefit everyone. And hopefully we can do better than white Twitter where the debate devolves into charges of "brainwashed CCP chinazi" or "CIA operative".

 
Posted : 10/10/2019 9:38 pm
(@asianboy123456)
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I always find Canada’s support of Hong Kong protests laughable. The last time all this shit happened, so many Hong Kongers moved to Vancouver and Toronto.
Canadians hate the shit out of these Hong Kongers who “buy their houses”. They refer to them as “Chinese” despite supporting Hong Kong. I hope in 30 years, this new wave of Canadian Hong Kongers stemming from these protests will realize how fake the international support is.
They’ll support you...as long as you don’t come anywhere near them.

 
Posted : 10/10/2019 9:39 pm
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Southeast Asians' hate for China/Chinese has a long history.
Indonesia has two fucking genocide against Chinese in the last 60 years (1965 mass killings and 1998 riot).
Malaysia kicked Singapore out for being "too Chinese."
Thai Chinese were so scared of anyi-Chinese persecution many of them changed their surname to hide their Chinese heritage.
But somehow it's all China's fault.

 
Posted : 10/10/2019 9:40 pm
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Looking at the recent videos, it's not 'protest' any more. It's domestic terrorism. If they pull that kind of shit (burning shops, trashing subways, gov buildings, stations, taking over freeways, throwing bombs, using bats and wrenches, attack citizens, cab drivers, shutting down airports) here in the states, media would report these as terrorism, because their actions fit the definition perfectly.
I am frankly surprised at the freaking restrain from police and authority. HK ppl have a lot more freedom from authority than in the US. Many of them would have been killed by police or even other citizens if they mess around like that here.
Seriously, does the average HKer feel safe today compare to months ago bef ore all these started?

 
Posted : 10/10/2019 9:41 pm
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Although not a genocide, Ferdinand Marcos did end up trying to Filipinize the Chinese-Filipino communities by ordering Chinese schools in the Philippines to shutdown, which is ironic since the man himself was Tsinoy. Luckily Tsinoys in the Philippines today thrive especially economically, and with Duterte in power this means Tsinoys who are more Beijing-sympathetic can feel more proud about their homeland without some sort of negative repercussion from more-hardline Filipinos. I remember five-to-ten years ago, any Tsinoy who showed even a sense of pride for China were vilified by other Filipinos, especially from Filipinos who were proud of their Spanish bloodline or the American occupation of the Philippines.

 
Posted : 10/10/2019 9:42 pm
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