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Thanks for sharing.  This is all new to me. 

 

Have you actually visited any of the Filipino communities in Mexico such as found in Colima, Guerrero and Baja California?

 

Maybe some Filipinos in Mexico still speak the native language of the Philippines which is Tagalog.  I guess most of them are only speaking Spanish in Colima and Guerrero. Maybe some Filipinos in Mexico mixed Spanish and Tagalog together because there are also several Mexicans that mixed Spanish and Nahuatl (Native Aztec Language) together.

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Recent Filipinos in mexico are very rare but they do exists, my guess is Mexico City is where they mostly reside.

Filipinos that have migrated during Spanish colonial period probably have married with the locals. 

I'll research more for you guys.

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The Filipinos that migrated to Mexico during the Manila Acapulco Galleon Trade have already assimilated to the culture. They view themselves as mainly Mexicans and secondarily as Filipinos. It's only the older generations that has some strong connection to the Philippines. Plus, a lot of them have actually never been back to the Philippines.

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Mexicans mainly have Native American Indian and Spanish genes but I'll look into it.  Mexico had strong civilizations in the past such as the Aztecs, Mayans, Olmecs, Teotihuacan, Mixtec, Zapotecs, Toltecs and plus more. They all have different ancestries and therefore they must have some differences in their genes. There were also a lot different Native American Indians that migrated to Mexico such as the Anasazi Indians. There were also other groups that made a transoceanic migration to Baja California from Southeast Asia such as the Pericues that resided in Los Cabos thousands of years ago.  The Pericues have Australo-Melanesian genes.  Among the recognizable ancient civilizations of Mexico, the Olmecs are considered among the earliest civilizations in Mesoamerica that possibly have some Australoid and Austronesian genes while others say African, unfortunately we don't have the DNA of these ancient people.  Archaeologist relied heavily on artifacts such as the the famous Olmec heads to provide them some answers. Throughout the history of Mexico, there have been several groups of people that have 'come' and 'gone' but most have stayed and interbred with one another forming the present day indigenous people of Mexico.

 

Also Spaniards are actually a mix group of people and they are called Peninsulares during the colonial times.   They are predominantly Iberian mixed in with Roman, Celtic, North African, Greek and plus more genes.  Once your ancestors arrived in Mexico and gave birth to generations upon generations of homogeneous Spaniards, then they become Criollos.  Once they interbred with the local indigenous Native American Indians, then they become Castizos and Mestizos.

 

I am guessing that you're a Criollo/Castizo since you've mentioned before that you are white Hispanic and bi-racial.

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I am guessing that you're a Criollo/Castizo since you've mentioned before that you are white Hispanic and bi-racial.

 
 
 
 
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Basque genes are found actually in some Spaniards.  The Basque people are considered among the earliest groups to inhabit Europe. Their language is considered the oldest in Europe which predates the arrival of the first Indo-European people and their language.  The Basque people invented the sport 'Jai Alai' in Spain and brought it throughout Latin America, Philippines and Florida.

 

 

 

 

Jai Alai

 

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I did not know Filipinos like jai alai

 

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Only a selected few Filipinos played Jai Alai. In the last few decades, the sport was banned and shut down in the Philippines but it occasionally comes back.

 

 

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Whoa, I have never met a Filipino that knows so much information about us.

Yes I am. What do you classify me as if I did not tell you?

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I was never good at classification but I'll try.  You belong to Mediterranid group.  You appear closer to Gracile Mediterranid.  Somehow you have some Pontid features also. 

Are you part Gypsy? 

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You did you just call me Gypsy? ouch 🙄 

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I was only asking because there are Gypsies in Europe that went to the Americas also.  Sorry.

 

People with Spanish ancestry are among the most mixed people in the world and it's not easy to classify them. 

 

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He didn't meant to say that. what he meant was Mexican indigenous. You know like a Mexican Queen.

 

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calm down, I don't have a thin skin. 

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Yes I am

 

 

Are you implying that you have some Basque ancestry?

 

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I'm Mexican

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Mexican girls and Latins American girls celebrate Quinceanera at the age 15.  You definitely had fond memories of your Quinceanera.

 

 

In the Philippines, we have a similar Quinceanera or "Rites of Passage".  Filipina girls celebrate Debut at the age 18, while some men celebrate their Debut at the age 21.

 

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You read my mind. I was going to write about Quinceanera next. 

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Some Hispanic American girls are celebrating Sweet 16 also and some combined it with Quinceanera

 

 

Amado, please do start a new thread on Quinceanera  or  Sweet Sixteen (Dulces Dieciseis).

 

 

 

Arianny Celeste probably did celebrate Quinceanera, Sweet Sixteen and Debut because she's Mexican and Filipina.

 

 

 

 

https://www.quinceanera-boutique.com/quinceaneratradition.htm

 

 

 

....many families today are merging their Hispanic and American heritages by choosing to celebrate a Sweet Sixteen. For their Sweet 16 party, the families do the full-blown quinceanera traditions - the religious ceremony, the reception, the tiara with the number 16, and more. We encourage families to select the customs that have special meaning to them and to add to the customs as they wish. That is what makes the celebration unique and very special.

In the Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central and South American traditions, the custom can be referred to as a Quince (XV) Años, a quinces,a Quinceanera, a Quinceanero or a Fiesta Rosa.

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sure next time I log in

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Arianny Celeste half Filipina and Half Mexican.

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she's very pretty

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Spanish-Mexican appearance 

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that bitch is bad ass

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Arianny Celeste and Cris Cyborg fits that description. 

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Although Arianny Celeste is described as half Filipina and half Mexican, she is actually 1/4 Filipina and 3/4 Mexican which explains why she appears Mexican.  

 

 

Celeste, who became popular by becoming an Octagon girl of the UFC, is ¼ Filipino and ¾ Mexican.

 

 

 

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where did you get that?

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Article

 

 

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/03/23/12/hot-ufc-girl-arianny-says-amazing-ph

 

 

 

MANILA, Philippines – Arianny Celeste, Ultimate Fighting Championship’s (UFC) most popular Octagon girl, is enjoying her stay in the Philippines.

The 26-year-old Filipina-Mexican bombshell is currently in Manila for the popular car show, Hot Import Nights.

“I've always dreamt of coming here. I mean, I've seen Korea, Japan and now the Philippines. It's just an amazing feeling to be here,” Celeste said in an interview with ANC’s Boyet Sison.

She enjoyed the hospitality accorded to her by Filipinos, whom she described as passionate and fun-loving.

Celeste, who became popular by becoming an Octagon girl of the UFC, is ¼ Filipino and ¾ Mexican.

 “My father was part Filipino. He was actually born in America,” she said.

 

 

 

 

 

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ok thanks for the info

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Thanks for asking.

 

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I think the OP was referring to Mexicans in Mexico and not Mexipinos in the U.S.A 

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She's from California, a former mexican territory. 😉 

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try not to derail it

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Filipina.  I really don't see her Mexican features.

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She's half mexican

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I know but I don't see her Mexican features.

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Jasmine Villegas is a native Californian with Mexican and Filipina ancestry.  During her early years as a singer I could see some Filipina features even though she could easily have passed as a Hispanic.  As she grew older, she appeared more Latina.  In this recent video, she definitely appeared and behaved like a typical Latina.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I had no Idea that the Filipinos made it to Mexico 

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Several Filipinos today are also unaware of this as well. 

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There were Italians in Mexico in the late 19th century 

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Italians were from the Venetian region that founded Chipilo city, Mexico in the 1880's.  

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipilo

 

Chipilo:  il Veneto  in Messico

 

 

 

 

 

tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_immigration_to_Mexico

 

Many Italian-Mexicans live in cities founded by their ancestors in the states of Veracruz (Huatusco) and San Luis Potosí. Smaller numbers of Italian-Mexicans live in Guanajuato, Edomex, and the former haciendas (now cities) of Nueva Italia, Michoacán and Lombardia in Michoacán, both founded by Dante Cusi from Gambar in Brescia.

 

 

 

 

 

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how about Mexicans?

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Mexicans in Italy?  I'll look into it, I'm sure there are some in Italy.  If there's a burrito and taco restaurant ( Taqueria ), a food truck or food stand, then it's probably a Mexican migrant who opened it up.

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European immigrants are mainly from other Europeans countries and neighboring countries in the Mediterranean Sea. 

Only a few thousands in America, Mexico and Latin America that have migrated back to Europe.  Several of them do have European ancestries.

Historically people migrated from Europe to the Americas and not the other way around.

 

 

 

 

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Mexicans in the Philippines

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I probably have to visit the place to answer your question. haha.  I'll have to look into it and if there's one then it's new to me also. They are likely to be found in Manila.

 

 

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Mexicans in the Philippines

 

 

 

 

 

Chavacano  -  Mexican Spanish

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavacano

 

 

 

The Chavacano languages in the Philippines are creoles based on Mexican Spanish and possibly, Portuguese. In some Chavacano languages, most words are common with Andalusian Spanish, but there are many words borrowed from Nahuatl, a language native to Central Mexico, which aren’t found in Andalusian Spanish. Although the vocabulary is largely Mexican, its grammar is mostly based on other Philippine languages,primarily IlonggoTagalog and Cebuano. By way of Spanish, its vocabulary also has influences from the Native American languages NahuatlTainoQuechua, etc. as can be evidenced by the words chongo (monkey, instead of Spanish 'mono'), tiange (mini markets), etc.[cita

 

 

 

 

 

Chavacano or Chabacano  is a group of Spanish-based creole language varieties spoken in the Philippines. The variety spoken in Zamboanga City, located in the southern Philippine island group of Mindanao, has the highest concentration of speakers. Other currently existing varieties are found in Cavite City and Ternate, located in the Cavite province on the island of Luzon.[4] 

 

 

 

 

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Mexicans are in the thousands in some European countries especially Spain where several Mexican ancestors were originally.  In Italy, there is a sizeable Mexican population however I'm unaware if they have an actual Mexican community at the moment. 

 

 

 

 

 

top 5 Mexican populations in Europe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have been to Italy, it was beautiful and the Italians did not believe that I was Mexican 

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You could pass up as an Italian I guess.   

 

Were there any actual Mexican and Latin communities in Italy? 

 

 

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An Italian-Filipino community in Mabini, Philippines.

 

 

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_Italians

 

 

The town of Mabini in Batangas has extensively benefited from Italian Filipinos; the town has the most former residents living abroad than any other Filipino town or city.  Most of those living abroad work in Italy, and a section of Mabini today that has large homes built from remittance money is named "Little Italy". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mabini is located on a peninsula in Batangas province, Philippines.

 

 

 

 

wikipedia

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabini,_Batangas

 

 

 

 

Map

 

 

 

 

 

 

Downtown Mabini

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anilao Beach, Mabini

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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how many Italians are in the Philippines

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I wish I could provide those demographics.

 

There are Italian tourist, residents and expats in the major developed cities and tourist spots in the Philippines. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Chavacano, Spanish creole language, has some Italian words such as Cosa = what?

 

 

Chavacano also has Nahuatl ( Native Aztec language ) words such as tomato along with the other words that I mentioned before such as zacate, tiangge, chongo and camote.

 

 

Chavacano also has some Portuguese words such as

 

 

ele = he

escuro = dark

onde = where

ensuga = to dry

convida = invite

 

 

 

 

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cosa = thing

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The reason why there was a creole language in the Philippines because the ships that sailed to Zamboanga, Mindanao in Philippines consisted of mainly Spaniards with a few Portuguese, Italians, Aztec and others. They settled on their new foreign land but in order to communicate effectively with one another they basically combined languages from Latin European, Native American Indian and Filipino language together to create Chavacano. 

 

 

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Most Italians in Latin America are in Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay. 

Italians in Mexico are very few. 

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Paraguay, Colombia, Venezuela does have a large Italian population also.

 

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_diaspora

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's also true vice versa, Mexicans made their way to the Philippines.

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_settlement_in_the_Philippines

 

 

Mexican settlement in the Philippines comprises a multilingual Filipino ethnic group composed of Philippine citizens with Mexican ancestry.[1][failed verification] The immigration of Mexicans to the Philippines dates back to the Spanish period. Migration from Mexico has been important since the Spanish period and when the Philippines was trading with this country during the Viceroyalty of New Spain, Mexican mestizos mixed with the inhabitants of the islands, similar to the amount of Spain and the United States, numbering up many names of Spanish origin.[2][failed verification] Mexican Filipinos are ethnically diverse. They can be Mexicans of European descentIndigenous peoples of Mexico, mixed-race, or members of any other group.

 

Mexican immigration to the Philippines mainly occurred during the Hispanic period. Between 1565-1821, the Philippines were in fact administered from the Viceroyalty of New Spain's capital, Mexico City. During this period trans-Pacific trade brought many Mexicans and Spaniards to the Philippines as sailors, crew, prisoners, slaves, adventurers and soldiers[3] in the Manila-Acapulco Galleons which was the main form of communication between the two Spanish territories. Similarly the route brought Filipinos, Filipino-born Spaniards and other southeast Asian groups to Mexico.

The Philippines and Mexico were part of the Spanish Empire, an experience that left a deep imprint on both societies.

 

 

 

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Manila - Acapulco Galleon Trade between 1565 to 1815 made it possible for the first wave of Filipinos to arrive in Mexico.

 

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