My Ambonese Moluccan mothers Updated Ancestry DNA results
Posted by: @tupalloMy Ambonese Moluccan mothers Updated Ancestry DNA results
whoa? why is the Philippines so ranked high on your mom's side?
I guess your one of us then.
Moluccans are the Austronesian-speaking and Papuan-speaking ethnic groups indigenous to the Maluku Islands, also called the Moluccas, which have been part of Indonesia since 1950. As such, "Moluccans" is used as a blanket term for various ethnic and linguistic groups inhabiting the islands.
I'm going to take a DNA test soon. I got interested because my family name is a Sephardic jew name. I'm just curious.
@rambo
I wouldnt take that jump in logic.The Moluccas were settled no less than 40,000 years ago,much longer than The Phillipines present population and far longer than the Phillipines has actually been "The Phillipines".Phillipines in this case means Austronesians from Taiwan,so it means a large part of her Ancestry is Austronesian settlers from what is now the Phillipines.In any case,the irony is that Western Indonesia has their own category thats quite distinct and closest to Thais and Khmers.And even funnier,is they have less "Phillipines" on average than Central and even Eastern Indonesians!Also take note that Polynesians and Micronesians would also score "Phillipines" in both Ancestry and 23andme,but its more accurate to call it the Austronesian category.
Interestingly, do you have the links for that study? I hope it's not too much hassle for you.
i almost thought that the malays, indonesians, filipinos & thais are similar to one another.
Genetically speaking,Thais and Western Indonesians are of similar origins while Eastern Indonesia,Phillipines,and Polynesia and Micronesia share an origin.But,Austronesians and Austro Asiatics like the former are distant cousins with some similarities ie. Tropical "Mongoloids".
My people,the Ambonese,are a subgroup or sub ethnicity of the Moluccan umbrella.Ambon is the Capitol and largest urban area in the Moluccas or Maluku Islands in Eastern Indonesia.Also known as South Moluccans,Ambonese are more admixed and less isolated than certain other sub groups in the Moluccas such as the Seramese or Kei or Aru Islanders,the latter of which have more pure Indigineous and Melanesian heritage also known as Alifuru peoples.
But on a side note,I as a Moluccan feel closer to Filipinos than I do say,Javanese,not just culturally but also genetically and linguistically that has proven to have some Merit.Also in our behaviours,there is more overlap than with Javanese.Ie. love of song and dance and Sport.I used to feel midway between a Papuan and a Filipino,and genetically this has proven true..
Yeah I think Filipinos & Moluccans will get along, on average most Filipinos don't know much about moluccans. but it will change soon once most of us got exposed to the rest of the pacific nations like moluccan.
I notice you guys like karaoke & gospel songs like we do. our two people will eventually meet somewhere lol . Moluccans will fit perfectly in the Philippine society.
I'm sure you guys get will get persecuted for being christians by the rest of the Asians just like we do. ( communist chinese, muslims, sino-sphere)
@rambo
Whats interesting is how Moluccans and Filipinos share that love of song and dance with Polynesians and Micronesians,and also Papuans/Melanesians as well.It could be either a Oceanian (Australoid) thing or an Austronesian one.
Eastern Indonesia,the Moluccas and Nusa Tengarra specifically,is also the most linguistically diverse region in all of Southeast Asia.We speak both Austronesian and Papuan languages.Phenotypically we are diverse as well,because of the Austronesian/Papuan mix has been added modern Indonesian,Chinese,Indian,Arab,and European admixtures.
@rambo
Wow,I totally forget we also share the Christian background.Actually,I believe there are Timorese in the Phillipines,and the Phillipines also supported East Timor independence and see them as fellow Catholics.In that way,Timorese are even more similar to Pinoys than Moluccans.
Btw,I know a Papuan New Guinea -Australian mix,his tribe is Mekeo who are Austronesian admixed speaking Coastal peoples.He told me his people were actually converted to Catholicism by Filipino migrants,and he himself had a bit of Pinoy blood!He said that many PNG people see themselves culturally closer to as well as behaviourally more like Filipinos than Indonesians (Javanese).
There already are Papua New Guinean and East Timorese students in the Phillipines,and I heard they get on quite well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DlIgS7XBwNo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xU-CNF9DB3Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3oM_aDp4BF8
The last video has a Crocodile on it.Fun fact,many people in the Moluccas,Timor,and Papua worship Crocodiles and believe that Crocodiles are their ancestors.In Ambon,I went to a Museum dedicated solely to the skeletons of Crocodiles and Komodos,and the Museum guide confirmed this relationship.