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what is a Vietnamese back ky?

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Now that is a nasty pejorative term. I think, because of the past conflict that shaped the outlook of many people that there are still people in southern Vietnam who do not like those from the north. Calling a northerner chó "dog" is a way of expressing that hatred.

It is an established fact that many northerners did migrate to southern Vietnam several decades ago. By contrast, a number of southerners (as well as those from central Vietnam) also moved to the north. My clan, for one, moved from Quang Binh in the central region up north to avoid war. By definition, my family is not from the north. I wonder whether I would be called a "dog" when I moved to southern cities like Saigon.

The reason for such questions is because, after the war many Vietnamese had to move from one region to another due to government policy. Many did so and rooted where they arrived; another wave of migration occurred after that, only two or three decades from now. With such waves of people moving around, it is very hard to discern whether a person is really a north- or south-erner. Most Vietnamese kids who move around like that acquire two to three accents that they use interchangeably. Two of my friends are northern and southern-origin kids who moved south and north respectively; their command of regional accents is surprising to say the least.

Adding to this melting pot is the fact that, among the younger generation in Vietnam many study abroad and meet each other. While on alien soil, Vietnamese of whatever region tend to flock together and befriend each other rather than holding each other in contempt, because they are equally alien to the local people. The Vietnamese community, from whatever region, is able to stay strong because they don't divide themselves internally. As I am a student in Japan, this applies directly to me. I myself have a great number of friends from southern (and central) Vietnam, many of which I love dearly and unequivocally. Perhaps when the Vietnamese are on foreign soil, we are able to combat regional differences and agree on how to treat each other like brothers. No one has ever called me "northern dog" as I recall.

To sum up, the forces of internal (inside Vietnam) and external (outside Vietnam) migration and interaction are helping to diminish the regional differences and regional discrimination among the Vietnamese. Perhaps, only those who stick to their home soil and refuse to accept people from other places would resort to using slurs to insult others. But they are a minority, and will be swept away jkm78\

by the present currents.

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Now that is a nasty pejorative term. I think, because of the past conflict that shaped the outlook of many people that there are still people in southern Vietnam who do not like those from the north. Calling a northerner chó "dog" is a way of expressing that hatred.

It is an established fact that many northerners did migrate to southern Vietnam several decades ago. By contrast, a number of southerners (as well as those from central Vietnam) also moved to the north. My clan, for one, moved from Quang Binh in the central region up north to avoid war. By definition, my family is not from the north. I wonder whether I would be called a "dog" when I moved to southern cities like Saigon.

The reason for such questions is because, after the war many Vietnamese had to move from one region to another due to government policy. Many did so and rooted where they arrived; another wave of migration occurred after that, only two or three decades from now. With such waves of people moving around, it is very hard to discern whether a person is really a north- or south-erner. Most Vietnamese kids who move around like that acquire two to three accents that they use interchangeably. Two of my friends are northern and southern-origin kids who moved south and north respectively; their command of regional accents is surprising to say the least.

Adding to this melting pot is the fact that, among the younger generation in Vietnam many study abroad and meet each other. While on alien soil, Vietnamese of whatever region tend to flock together and befriend each other rather than holding each other in contempt, because they are equally alien to the local people. The Vietnamese community, from whatever region, is able to stay strong because they don't divide themselves internally. As I am a student in Japan, this applies directly to me. I myself have a great number of friends from southern (and central) Vietnam, many of which I love dearly and unequivocally. Perhaps when the Vietnamese are on foreign soil, we are able to combat regional differences and agree on how to treat each other like brothers. No one has ever called me "northern dog" as I recall.

To sum up, the forces of internal (inside Vietnam) and external (outside Vietnam) migration and interaction are helping to diminish the regional differences and regional discrimination among the Vietnamese. Perhaps, only those who stick to their home soil and refuse to accept people from other places would resort to using slurs to insult others. But they are a minority, and will be swept away jkm78\

by the present currents.

It's ''Chó Bắc Kỳ ''

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Chó Bắc Kỳ = ''Northern [Vietnamese] dog''. Vietnamese south of the Ben Hai River 17th parallel use that term to pejoratively refer to North Vietnamese people (namely people in North and Bắc '75 (post-1975 North Vietnamese migrants to the South)). The term is usually used by Central, South Vietnamese when discussing:

the Communist dictatorship (which is dominated and led by mostly Northern hardliners) and it's many injustices, crimes, amorality, incompetence, Chinese puppetry and other problems
what the Hanoi Communist regime did to former South Vietnam after 1975 - mass persecutions, hard labor and killings of perceived political/social enemies, loss of rights and freedoms, loss of human rights, Hanoi's paranoid control and surveillance of people's everyday lives, brainwashing, starvation and abject poverty and economic destruction created by the Communists, theft of middle and upper-class homes businesses and properties, internal deportation of South Vietnamese to jungles for subsistence farming, etc. Basically, discussing the pure hell on earth and nightmarish misery created by the Northern Communists after the 1975 invasion and their destruction of the far better life, society, economics and living standards, government and freedom of South Vietnam. For more about this point, see here: Answer to Why are so many 'Bac Ky' migrating to South Vietnam?
disapproval of various behaviors that are perceived to be more prevalent in North Vietnamese than in Central or Southern Vietnamese. For more about this point, see here: Northern and southern Vietnam

From a dư luận viên commentator below: "Vietnam is quite democratic now" - hilarious. Check any human rights or pro-democracy NGO, Communist Vietnam is ranked in the bottom 10 in the world for their human rights record and crushing any attempts for multi-party democracy. Ask any Vietnamese and have them respond anonymously. Check the countless reports online about human rights violations, censorship, muzzling and imprisonment/killings of dissidents, journalists and whistleblowers (VCP [DCSVN] often use gangs [Xã hội đen] and secret police to conduct discreetly killings), kangaroo show trials, prison abuse, police brutality, land and property confiscations from poor Vietnamese, VCP apparatchiks amassing a fortune from theft, kickbacks, bribery etc and laundering their dirty money in overseas accounts and foreign real estate, defending Communist war criminals by distorting/censoring/lying about Vietnamese history, and so on.

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 what will happen if I call a Vietnamese a Back ky?

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@naval

Depends on who you say it to. You will just end up in a physical fight, So I suggest not to say that to any Vietnamese at all.

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@flowergirl

 have you been around Vietnamese people?

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It's ''Chó Bắc Kỳ ''' not ''back ky' or 'becky'

 Chó Bắc Kỳ = ''Northern [Vietnamese] Dog''. Vietnamese south of the Ben Hai River seventeenth parallel utilize that term to derogatorily allude to North Vietnamese individuals (to be specific individuals in North and Bắc '75 (post-1975 North Vietnamese transients toward the South))

 

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I thought Back Ky is a neutral term for Northerners and Chinese? 

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@selurong

Chó Bắc Kỳ = northern Dog. I see Vietnamese use it all the time against northern communist 

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@rambo

Oh I see. I should have looked the meaning up. It's very insulting.

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