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Japanese people are related to Filipinos, Indonesians, Taiwanese natives

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Japanese are Japanese. We have no genetically link to “altaic people”.

Our origin is mostly the result of a mix.

Today modern Japanese are the mix of the Jomon people and the Yayoi people.

The Jomon people are the original native Japanese people and originated somewhere in Southeast-Asia or in Indonesia. The Yayoi originated near the Yangze-river area in southern china and moved over the Korean pensuila into Japan. There they mixed with the Jomon and the modern Japanese(yamato) was created.

today japanese people means the three groups: Ainu, Yamato and Ryukyuans. All are genetically related and the result of mix of Jomon and Yayoi.

Genetically we have the Haplogroups D2, O2b, O3 and O2a.

there are some connections to Tibetan people, Chinese people, Korean people and other Southeast-asian populations.

In linguistic terms, Japanese is classificated as isolated language. But recent reseaches of proto-japanese show connections to other southeast-asian languages.

So linguists often consider Japanese as part of the Austric-family as Para-Austronesian.

austric family:

here some pictures that explain the migrations routes into Japan:

and a DNA chart that show if there are relations to other ethnics or not:

We see that we have genetic connections today especially to tibetan people and other not shown southeast-asian tribes.

A theory of a northern origin is debunked/obsolete.

 

https://www.quora.com/Is-Japanese-people-an-Austronesian-or-Altaic-people

 
Posted : 04/10/2020 12:32 am
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豐臣秀吉高山國招諭文書

 
 

豐臣秀吉高山國招諭文書(日語:豊太閤の高山国勧降状),為日本戰國時代文祿2年(1593年),豐臣秀吉派遣使者原田孫七郎日語原田孫七郎前往臺灣(當時日本人稱為高山國)要求納貢所攜帶的諭令文書,但是因為使者找不到可以傳遞文書給高山國的人而不得要領。該文書現藏於加賀前田家尊經閣文庫

1635年荷蘭人所繪福爾摩沙與周邊國家
 

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16世紀末,豐臣秀吉平定日本內亂之後,開始計畫向外擴張勢力。先是於1592年出兵朝鮮,再於1593年12月27日寫置招諭文書,派遣使者原田孫七郎攜帶《高山國招諭計畫書》前往臺灣北部。其內容有如中國古代帝王征討的文書,除了宣揚國力及豐臣秀吉的功業外,文末並以「若是不來朝,可令諸將征伐之,生長萬物者,日也;枯竭萬物者,日也;思之」威脅及恫嚇臺灣人納貢[1]。但因為當時台灣北部原住民仍處於部落社會、未形成統一的地方政府,原田孫七郎找不到可以傳遞文書給高山國的人,無法如願而返回日本[來源請求]

 

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豐臣秀吉招諭臺灣的作為,讓西鄰的明朝與佔有南鄰菲律賓群島西班牙感到緊張。明朝加強防禦澎湖,以防日本侵擾沿海[2];西班牙則準備率先攻占臺灣,以防日本南下。不久,豐臣秀吉、原田相繼去世[2],日本再度陷入內戰。[1]。「招諭」一事遂無疾而終。

 

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夫日輪所照臨,至海岳山川草木禽蟲,悉莫不受他恩光也。予際欲處慈母胞胎之時,有瑞夢,其夜已日光滿室,室中如晝;諸人不勝驚懼。相士相聚占筮之,曰:及壯年輝德色於四海,發威光於萬方之奇異也。故不出十年之中,而誅不義、立有功,平定海內。異邦遐陬嚮風者,忽出鄉國遠泛滄海,冠蓋相望結轍於道,爭先而服從矣。朝鮮國者,自往代於本朝有牛耳盟;久背其約。況又,予欲征「大明」之日,有反謀。此故,命諸將伐之。國王出奔,國城付一炬也。聞事已急,「大明」出數十萬援兵;雖及戰鬪,終依「不得其利」,來「勅使」於本邦肥之前州,而乞降。繇之築數十箇城營,收兵於朝鮮域中「慶尚道」,而屢決真偽也。如南蠻琉球者,年年獻土宜,海陸通舟車,而仰予德光。其國未入幕中,不逞之罪彌天。雖然不知四方來享,則非其地疎志;故原田氏奉使命而發船。若是不來朝,可令諸將攻伐之。生長萬物者,日也;枯竭萬物亦日也。思之,不具。文祿二歲.星集癸巳.十一月初五日。日本國.前關白

https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E8%B1%90%E8%87%A3%E7%A7%80%E5%90%89%E9%AB%98%E5%B1%B1%E5%9C%8B%E6%8B%9B%E8%AB%AD%E6%96%87%E6%9B%B8

 
Posted : 04/10/2020 12:42 am
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Posted : 04/10/2020 12:58 am
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@rambo  This video is a gem!  I'm always looking for Austronesian vids on yt but never came upon this!  So thank you!

 

As for the rest, they're written in Japanese, do you have a translation?

 
Posted : 04/10/2020 8:09 pm
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@rambo

 

I'm subscribed to Masaman and saw this a while back, an interesting video indeed!

 
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