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Do Filipinos want to change the name of their country and decolonize further?

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ShazamsLaw
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Changing the name to Austronesia would represent the different Austronesian groups in the Philippines uniting regardless of differences in religon, culture and beliefs. The idea that Filipinos are only "united" through Spanish exertion is a slap to every Filipinos face. 

Contrary to popular belief, Spain wasn't the reason why the philippines was a united front. Pretty much Filipinos owes much to Indo- Malay, American, French, Chinese, Indian and Arab methods as well. The Spanish owe a lot to Moorish methods of a unified country because they were conquered by the Moors for seven hundred plus years. TWICE the length of time of Spanish presence in the Philippines... BEFORE the Spanish even arrived on the islands.

What is often confused is that because Spanish terminology was used for the Tagalog or Spanish provinces in the Philippines, it is taken as if those regions unification existed during that time.Filipinos merely altered the way they called some things into Spanish, the same way Filipinos alter the way they describe some things into English today.

Not that no Spanish influence was involved, but to say the Philippines is a Spanish construct is incorrect. If that were true, then Spain NEVER would of made it a point to make sure that Moor influence was negligible when it came to introducing the Spanish version of history among native cultures during their Conquesta.

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@shazamslaw

You make some good points, but the name "Austronesia" doesn't sound good. The name Austronesia comes from the Austronesian linguistic category and it includes many non-Filipinos such as Indonesians and Malaysians as well. Maybe something like "Maharlika" or "Luzviminda" or "Tawalisi".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawalisi

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ShazamsLaw
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@mingle

Austronesia better represents the "Philippine" islands considering that the nation was mostly built by Austronesian culture. Most of other non-Filipinos would not have existed if Austronesians in the Philippine islands did not migrate to those said islands. As for Austronesians migrating to the Phililppines form Taiwan, most of those Austronesians barely exist in the nation of Taiwan and China, its mostly dominated by the han chinese. 

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@shazamslaw

There are more Austronesians in Indonesia than the Philippines. Calling the PH "Austronesia" would mean that citizens of PH are "Austronesian". Then it will create confusion between the linguistic term "Austronesian" and the nationality "Austronesian". One word will have two definitions and cause unnecessary confusion.

What do you think about the names I proposed?

Maharlika, Luzviminda, Tawalisi.

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ShazamsLaw
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Posted by: @mingle

@shazamslaw

There are more Austronesians in Indonesia than the Philippines. Calling the PH "Austronesia" would mean that citizens of PH are "Austronesian". Then it will create confusion between the linguistic term "Austronesian" and the nationality "Austronesian". One word will have two definitions and cause unnecessary confusion.

What do you think about the names I proposed?

Maharlika, Luzviminda, Tawalisi.

Yet Chinese and Arabs don't fall under the Austronesian category, so no idea the point of bringing up Indonesia lol. It wouldn't be confusing since people don't get mixed up between the malay ethnic group and the nation "malaysia" which is a country that is occupied by non-malays. The last three names refer to a un-united pre-colonial islands, not a unified one......

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@mingle

Luziminda?tawalisi? Sounds like a food brand. Lol

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Philippines is fine. 

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donnie
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This has been discussed before in president Marcos era. Most Filipinos do not want to change the name of the Philippines. 

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Elgin Productions
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Same here, I dont want it to change. 

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saltech
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What's the alternative name? It really depends on what the locals want.

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