@MaharlikaTimawa

Awww...loook at the poor little monkey throwing a temper tantrum. LOL It's almost cute, like watching a baby chimp at the zoo get mad when he doesn't get a banana. LOL FYI, the Moros are filipinos, you retarded monkey. LOL Minsibads are a product of European influence, Minsibads wouldn’t look anything like they would now if spain didn’t come.

And if Austronesians prior to the Philippines didn't exist, Minasbads, the design as we know them, wouldn't have existed either, it goes both ways smartass, thicko.

This coming from a filam brat with insecurity issues. And if I'm a moneky, then what does that make you? Headlines, MaharlikaTimawa getting wrecked in a debate by a monkey. That's you!

Hey Thicko, maybe you should tell your Moros about how Kampilans and Kris are all products of Malay influence that in turn would not have occurred without foreign Indian, Arab, Malay introduction, trade, influence and metal imports? How's that genius? Are you really making arguments that are reverse-applicable? That is a classic amateur mistake in any discussion that many retards make. who are you to make me believe you're as intelligent as you say you are? LOL

You do realize that had it not been for Indians/Arabs/Malays/Muslims that Moros would just remained to the Austronesian base culture right? No better than the rest of the Philippines. Probably similar to some Igorot tribes if anything. Moros were ALWAYS dependent on foreign influence for techno-cultural advancement, but it is not an achievement or ingenuity, it's called adaptability, those two are not the same thing. Something your pee little Filam brain cannot comprehend, Thicko.

When you bring in war feats when it comes to the Philippines, Moros are always involved because they’re the ones with the most feats when it comes to comparing any other Filipinos. Filipinos are practically the savior of the jews, if it wasn’t for them the rest of jewish people fleeing from Europe would be taking a train back to Deutschland’s oven. “Pactard”? It’s funny how you bring Pacquaio into this, you know as much about history as a liberal knows about economics, don’t bring up sports unless you want another ass whooping on another subject LMAO.

Feats are shit and mean shit if you can't keep it up.

Also, you save as little as just 1200 Jews, some of them got killed by the Japanese, and now you think you're my savior? Even Arabs who generally discriminate against us saved more. France saved 3000+ or so Jews, Denmark welcomed what, about 5000 Jewish refugees and/or sent 7000 Jews away, and Switzerland alone saved around what, 62,000+ Jews? A lot of them, survivors from Hungary, like Filipinos are the only ones who ever saved a Yehudi, that 1,200 number you're bragging about, like you got shit on us very miniscule. YOU LEARN YOUR FACTS PROPERLY, you're far from our sole saviour And I'm the stupid one? I'm the one who knows nothing about history? I'm the one who needs to learn his facts properly? What a laugh. Hell, only your Manila government's administration at the time was pretty much the only one involved with the initiative, who wished to save Jews who had the government power to allow 1200 of us in your little island, not Filipinos as a general collective, you were not even that consciously aware of our existence generally, not even today you're not, just your government and the relatively small number of Filipinos educated enough about us. The primary source of knowledge you Filipinos get about Yehuds generally is vaguely through just Catholicism or maybe the lies those specific Spanish scum spread about us to you. SO AGAIN, YOU LEARN YOUR FACTS PROPERLY. Your assessment of the situation of when our peoples crossed in the 1930s-40s, when you saved 1200 of us is piss-poor over-simplified and overblown, quit wanking your dick too hard James idiot. From this indication of your arrogance, you lack any indication of being intelligent, you're a simple minded simpleton, forgive the redundancy maybe, but that's what you are. Can't even get the history of our two peoples' relations right detail to detail. Laughable. YOU know as little about Jewish history as much as a Liberal does with economics.

Listen, I'll honor that Filipinos allowed middle eastern reject gypsies like us Jews to settle here during a genocide, but do not push it many other people also saved many Jews and I also honor them, even some Germans did. The only Jews of debt to you are the survivors of those 1200 Jews you saved, that's about it, too complicated for your pee little brain to understand? It's good enough that Israel is the only ME country where Filipino OFWs working for a living that number to 2000+ are treated with more dignity or respect than the Arabs do, and we'll always do. We won't threaten to send any of your people to a death sentence over stupid bullshit like those Arabs would do. You can count on us that we will take care of you. BELIEVE ME, I have nothing but utmost respect for Filipinos. There are several cultural traits that I even wish we would pick up that would make us better people. But get f*cking real guy, you're the only Filipino talking the shit about Jews the way you do. And it is good enough that around about 80-90% of your people literally worship a dead 2000 year old hippy carpenter Jew as their god that will deliver them to salvation from the fiery pits of hell, or at least worship an Abrahamic deity as your Moros do. So consider yourselves even with those 1200 of my fellow Jews. Don't be f*cking cocky, Filipinos I know are multitudes more intelligent and mature than you are. You're just an individual punk. Retards from all races and peoples deserve to get their egos wrecked.

Even many regular Pacquaio fans (and I am one of them) don't like Pactards, it's not rocket science to dislike rabid fans from any fanbase. I admire and see Manny more than just a boxer, he is a very passionate and good man. I just dislike Pactards who storm and troll the internet like retards for no reason, I give the same treatment for all fans of all fandoms no matter what medium, who are annoying as well. I don't give a rats ass about the lives of idiot Pactards, doesn't mean I disrespect Pacquaio, so you made a false aggressive piss-poor assumption about me, leads me to believe your judgement intellect is weak, leading to your poor thinking skills.

And no, I don't agree with Socialist economics, although I'm generally center/moderate left, I do strongly believe in Free-Market Capitalism and I don't agree with raising the minimum wage or raising taxes on the rich. I even argued with several socialist liberals and borderline marxists on many youtube video comment section and they are one of the most stupid retards I've argued with all my life.

So we are on the same page on two other subjects, we can agree on one or two things after all. Maybe if we discussed other subjects besides Filipino martial arts, we might actually get along.

I doubt you know much about history yourself, you believe that the Philippines existed before Spain. You're stupid enough to believe that as if Filipinos are the only ones who saved more than a thousand Jews, you ain't, and you're also stupid enough to not humbly realize that the only Jews who you are a savior to are JUST those specific 1200 Euro-Jews you saved, what about Mizrahi Jews who were never at the hands at the Nazis, ME Sephardi Jews and American AJ whose grandfathers where never AT Europe during WWII like myself? Those 1200 Jews you are a savior to, but I individually, do not recognize you as my own. You have CRITICALLY low thinking skills, concocting WRONG logic, you are incredibly stupid and you put out garbage arguments. I evidently know more about Filipino history and culture and your people than you do know ANY if at all anything about Jewish history and culture or my people, Hell, you don't even know the royal family and house, nor the genealogy of the Spanish monarch of your country's namesake, you also probably didn't know that Tausugs are now linguistically classified as Visayan, didn't know that? So much for being an expert in history. Let's get real. It is YOU who should learn his facts, PROPERLY.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
The moros are only a fraction of the population of all of Vietnam, but since you can’t do math its understandable that you compare an entire nation to a small group of people that still wreaked havoc on foreign invaders. And please, theres a reason why Vietnam completely backed down on declaring war on the Philippines.
If you want to constantly run your mouth, putting Moros at the pedestal, prepare to have them compared, I care not about your complaints. You don't see me complaining to you that you're comparing us Jews to Filipinos are you? I don't care, I'll take on your bullshit on face value head on. We can call each other a pussy, but you're the one acting like it, I'm not. LOL

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
You have a serious amount of sand in your vagina. It's unfortunate your pussy hurts so much LMAO.
Aw, have I struck a nerve?

You're the one insulting me, by bringing up Nazis and shit, you're going ballistic insane, you're the who has sand in your vagina. I'll just assume every poorly written insult you throw at me is a projection, little whore.

And say that after you rewind this conversation in this thread and see who started making this thread a shit pissing contest, pissing even against mods. Definitely not me. Until then, you're the one who has a serious amount of sand in YOUR vagina.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
Run away, little coward. You've proven you're nothing but an easily swayed, prejudiced lemming. I bet you only see Nazis when you see an Iron Cross medal, don't you? Pussy.
Call me a pussy, while you go back taking another month or week hiatus before replying. And LOL You're already pissed off to the point I made you resort to Nazi related insults, against a Jew you're pissed off at, safe to say that I struck a nerve haven't I? No insult you've wrote here on your post is anything close to being original or clever compared to those written even by 4chan trolls or Stormfags, yawn, weak, you ain't all that shit James Thicko. Tsk tsk, and I'm the one with sand in the pussy? You have no position to scold anyone for prejudice for some idiot like yourself constantly talking shit about his fellow Filipinos over history.

And seriously? your original argument in this thread was that Filipino blades just suck in general, and that Filipinos NEVER EVER made steel blades, now you're changing the argument to.... Filipino blades BEFORE the Spanish sucked..... even though, come to think of it, there was no such thing as a Filipino before the Spanish so this claim is moot. Then you switch your argument to... Filipino blades have some European influence so therefore without nuance, they can never EVER be credited to Filipinos with ANY given credit, and wow you're tweaking your own source that pertained to only during the 16th century did the weapon imports happened, and defying and contradicting it with a shitty speculation with no evidence and misusing your own source, now that you realize that your own source is being used against you LOL HAHAHAHAHA what a fail you are. You are literally deviating from your original claims. Your arguments are ambiguous and deflective. You're like a little sissy girl. You demonstrate well that you CANNOT keep up in an intense intellectual conversation. You can barely even hold up your primary argument in this entire thread, but you still have the balls to diss me like you do?

You take one or two month hiatus before FINALLY replying with crappy arguments, logging in and out randomly without saying anything, your arguments are more deflective, defensive, ambiguous, speculative than actually conclusive, confrontational or aggressive. Your arguments show signs you are not even self-confident. You probably were originally even considering ditching and abandoning this conversation to begin and never returning, logging in and out randomly deciding if and when to reply, with from the looks of it, and you're saying I'm the pussy coward? None of your arguments here were even ever ideated then. I just wrecked you three times in this thread. I can do it again. I can do this all day.

You're out of your league Maharlika, Thicko. You're not as smart as you are making yourself out to be. You literally CANNOT back up any of your insults against me, but I can back up mine. You can't touch me. But keep telling yourself otherwise, nobody here you respects at all.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
The moros are only a fraction of the population of all of Vietnam, but since you can’t do math its understandable that you compare an entire nation to a small group of people that still wreaked havoc on foreign invaders. And please, theres a reason why Vietnam completely backed down on declaring war on the Philippines.
If you want to constantly run your mouth, putting Moros at the pedestal, prepare to have them compared, I care not about your complaints. You don't see me complaining to you that you're comparing us Jews to Filipinos are you? I don't care, I'll take on your bullshit on face value head on. We can call each other a pussy, but you're the one acting like it, I'm not. LOL

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
You have a serious amount of sand in your vagina. It's unfortunate your pussy hurts so much LMAO.
Aw, have I struck a nerve?

You're the one insulting me, by bringing up Nazis and shit, you're going ballistic insane, you're the who has sand in your vagina. I'll just assume every poorly written insult you throw at me is a projection, little whore.

And say that after you rewind this conversation in this thread and see who started making this thread a shit pissing contest, pissing even against mods. Definitely not me. Until then, you're the one who has a serious amount of sand in YOUR vagina.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
Run away, little coward. You've proven you're nothing but an easily swayed, prejudiced lemming. I bet you only see Nazis when you see an Iron Cross medal, don't you? Pussy.
Call me a pussy, while you go back taking another month or week hiatus before replying. And LOL You're already pissed off to the point I made you resort to Nazi related insults, against a Jew you're pissed off at, safe to say that I struck a nerve haven't I? No insult you've wrote here on your post is anything close to being original or clever compared to those written even by 4chan trolls or Stormfags, yawn, weak, you ain't all that shit James Thicko. Tsk tsk, and I'm the one with sand in the pussy? You have no position to scold anyone for prejudice for some idiot like yourself constantly talking shit about his fellow Filipinos over history.

And seriously? your original argument in this thread was that Filipino blades just suck in general, and that Filipinos NEVER EVER made steel blades, now you're changing the argument to.... Filipino blades BEFORE the Spanish sucked..... even though, come to think of it, there was no such thing as a Filipino before the Spanish so this claim is moot. Then you switch your argument to... Filipino blades have some European influence so therefore without nuance, they can never EVER be credited to Filipinos with ANY given credit, and wow you're tweaking your own source that pertained to only during the 16th century did the weapon imports happened, and defying and contradicting it with a shitty speculation with no evidence and misusing your own source, now that you realize that your own source is being used against you LOL HAHAHAHAHA what a fail you are. You are literally deviating from your original claims. Your arguments are ambiguous and deflective. You're like a little sissy girl. You demonstrate well that you CANNOT keep up in an intense intellectual conversation. You can barely even hold up your primary argument in this entire thread, but you still have the balls to diss me like you do?

You take one or two month hiatus before FINALLY replying with crappy arguments, logging in and out randomly without saying anything, your arguments are more deflective, defensive, ambiguous, speculative than actually conclusive, confrontational or aggressive. Your arguments show signs you are not even self-confident. You probably were originally even considering ditching and abandoning this conversation to begin and never returning, logging in and out randomly deciding if and when to reply, with from the looks of it, and you're saying I'm the pussy coward? None of your arguments here were even ever ideated then. I just wrecked you three times in this thread. I can do it again. I can do this all day.

You're out of your league Maharlika, Thicko. You're not as smart as you are making yourself out to be. You literally CANNOT back up any of your insults against me, but I can back up mine. You can't touch me. But keep telling yourself otherwise, nobody here you respects at all.

If you look closely, you can see Maharlika/James getting dumber and dumber when he makes a new post. It's like he becomes three times dumber with every new shit post. Maharlika's brain is like a tied up like a whore's panties.

Is there anything to argue with against a guy who connects f*cking modern M16s as pertaining conclusive relevant argument construct relating to the question if the Filipino Dha sample I posted was imported? Dafuq? How are those two things even related at all? How??? I'm literally arguing with a little kid with retardation or some mental disorder, and this is not even an insult, it's diagnostic and even a borderline strawman argument at that.

James claims to be a history god expert, while indicating that he knows SO little about Jewish history. He thinks that because Filipinos 1200 saved Jews, that's enough to make Filipinos like this f*cking, SOLE DESTINED ESTEEMED SAVIOR of Jews, like holy shit, we are life in debt to you. While totally ignoring that several groups saved way more Jews. Switzerland saved like what, 62,000 Jews? That's like over 50-60 times over the number of Jews that were saved by Filipinos, not discounting the number of them killed by the Japanese. I need to learn my facts properly he said, bull f*cking shit.

He also switches his arguments defensively, first he says that Filipinos never historically made any steel weapons, that they ALWAYS imported blades, he is even seen in vikingsword claiming that more recent antique long ginuntings are Moro imports for some reason despite the fact there is zero credible indication for such.

Then after I called his bullshit out, he revises and back-pedals his argument to save face, he now FINALLY agrees Filipinos did but at least after the Spanish came, and instead berates Filipino blades for foreign influence while totally ignoring that pretty much most if not all Moro blades could be said the same about, indicating his bias and his belief in double standards, TAKE NOTE HE NEVER EVER USED AN ARGUMENT LIKE THIS IN THIS THREAD UNTIL NOW indicating it took him his long hiatus to ideate this bullshit. He thinks that any quality antiquated Filipino blade post 16th century is imported despite the fact his own source only explicitly mentioned that such imports only occurred during the 16th century, what a fag, what a fail. And now he attempts to ignore that detail of his source and come up with bullshit non sense arguments to patch it up.

And in regards to Maharlika/James berating Filipino blades for having some form of foreign influence, if we used his logic, we cannot attribute the work and effort put into a nicepainting with a distinguishable art style to its creative artist because his paint brush and his palette were not manufactured by him, and that he was taught by an art teacher. A very stupid argument and stupid logic that NOBODY ON THIS F*CKING PLANET with a thinking brain would agree with.

The fact that he resorts to Nazi related insults and ad-hominem attacks against me, means I already GOT to his head psychologically and he admits I win by doing this. I already won this. Too easy.

I'm starting to consider that Maharlika even trumps Ejay's stupidity level, even Ejay wouldn't conceive a stupid argument formula like this. Or make blatant stupid assumptions like he does, or make stupid logic like he does. Isn't it also now a pattern that specifically self-hating Filams have critically poor thinking skills? Seems so.
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Want my advice James, Thicko? delete your account, ditch this forum before you embarrass yourself again. Or do you want me to devastatingly wreck you one more time? You must be a masochist of some sort.

You'll probably take another week, or another month, just to formulate a reply, randomly logging in and out from that hiatus, anxiously deciding WHEN to reply, hell, with one month and so of preparing, you can't even come up with a decent engaging argument as seen. I think the only reason you regained your confidence to reply only now this december after your pussy hiatus was because your mood was lightened when mommy gave you a present for what you would call your "pasko" for the little Jr. James, little Filam cute baby, aw, so cute.... LOL!! take FIVE F*CKING YEARS HIATUS BEFORE YOU REPLY F*CK TAKE YOUR ENTIRE LIFETIME OF PREPARING ANOTHER ARGUMENT JAMES BOY, maybe then your next reply won't contain EQUALLY AS stupid arguments.

Thicko, this thread was intended for what one would describe as "Filipino" weapons REGARDLESS of time period. And BARELY even mentioned pre-Hispanic blade types. Read the first page of this f*cking thread and see how stupid you are.

And can you not even read the title of this F*CKING THREAD????? "Deadly and Beautiful Filipino Weapons" this thread was never about "Pre-Colonial Time Period Era Visayan Blades vs Moro Blades" you stupid idiot.

Recall to what you said. So I can show you where you either lied or you were being COMPLETELY idiotic.

Quote Quote
- "Its been reported that Filipino made weapons has always been inferior to Moro made weapons."
- "LOL The Visayans never made STEEL swords you ****ing moron."
- "Notice how most of the good weapons from the Philippines are all Moro made"
You said """ALWAYS""" Thicko, REMEMBER? You even repeated this narrative to me as a reply when I was describing Ginuntings and Binangons from the Colonial period. And you even said Visayans never made STEEL SWORDS remember? Now you're saying they did. You are literally a flip-flopping retard.

Let's get to calling you out again. This time against your first claims.

First of all, Visayan made blades was not "always" inferior to Moro made blades. In fact, there is no such a thing as a High-End Moro Made Blade that surpassed the metal work quality of a High-End Steel Visayan Made Blade or a High-End Steel Luzonese Made Blade. Ask any knowledgeable blade collector of Filipino swords who worked with all these blades in decent volume. Antique non-Moro Filipino blades are usually regarded as well made. The best pieces equal the best Moro Filipino blades in quality.

The best historically constructed individual steel blades from the regions of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao are pretty much regarded of equal quality in metal work. And Moro Blade quality INDIVIDUALLY VARIED, like all fruits from all blade cultures. While there are many Moro blades that would seriously impress the Spanish for rivaling their Toledo blades, there are also a lot of Moro blades that have LESS going for them. For example there are many antique/old Kris blades suffering forging flaws, soft cores that take set, or are literally plain soft, so your implication that there is no such thing as a Moro soft blade is bullshit. In fact, according to professional and knowledgeable blade collectors I've read up to who worked with a lot of Moro blades, the Kampilan is prone to even MORE quality variation than a Kris that is already quality wise diverse individually, due to the materialistic difficulty of tempering such long blades during pre-Industrial conditions. And the same can be said for Visayan and Luzon blades of even the colonial era with such quality variation.

So the verdict is:

1. No, it is not true that non-Moro Filipino weapons were ALWAYS inferior, it depends on which individual blade you're comparing to/what historical time period you speak of.

2. It is not true that Filipinos "never" historically made steel blades like you first said BEFORE you flip-flopped.

3. It is not true that the vast majority of Filipino blades that are good, effective or functional are "Moro".

4. The idea that Filipino blades just generally broke after a few uses is TOTALLY bullshit. There are old Igorot bolos for example that are so well made, they go generations aged, and are STILL being used even today. There are antique Ginuntings that are capable of chopping up wood like NOTHING, that function alike an axe. Non sense. Also goes with debunking the idea that Filipinos can NEVER be as good as Moros at making good blades.

Put this bullshit to rest once and for all. Got it Thicko? LEARN YOUR FACTS PROPERLY and drop this stupid bullshit myth of the MORO SUPER SWORDS you speak of, you sound like a f*cking Katana fanboy who speaks of European Long swords easily breaking and how Katanas can cut up a Euro. Long Sword easily.

Yes, the best Moro made blades DO rival Japanese swords in quality. But your narratives LACK the necessary objective nuance to the subject, because you must also realize (or you maliciously omitted) that there are crap Moro swords as well that CAN be inferior to the best Colonial Era, Visayan Steel blades. YOU on the other hand, are nit-picking the worst non-Moro Filipino blades and comparing best Moro Filipino blades which is idiotic and not scientific. Which was your intention from the start.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
The katana originated from the tachi, the tachi is Japanese.
*FACEPALM* Oh my god James, you REALLY are getting dumber and dumber, using arguments that are basic strawmen. I KNOW OF THE ORIGIN OF THE KATANA DIPSHIT. I endlessly argued with Chinazis and Korean retards over this shit, and I ponder with the idea that the Tang-Dao was a curved sword is in fact a bullshit marketing ploy myth. But regardless, everyone educated about the subject knows that the Katana anyway, would NEVER have been the same or existed without the effect of the influence and trade of the Mainland Asians, THAT'S MY F*CKING POINT, I'm USING YOUR LOGIC in how you're saying Minasbads would not be the same without the Europeans.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
All those designs were influenced by the Philippines you ****ing bonobo. With the exceptions of maybe designs like the wavy kris, that type of blade design was even used by the animist Visayans and southern coastal people of Luzon prior to Spain and maybe Islam.
LMFAO, Are you implying that non wavy Kris/Keris on the other hand is a pre-Hispanic Filipino invention or influence to other cultures with similar blades???? Get the f*ck out. Neither is it ever true for the wavy Kris design. The Kris is more likely of JAVANESE origin, at least more likely than your bullshit Moro origin theory, alongside other considered theories. The genesis of the family of Kampilan related blades on the other hand was NEVER invented NOR influenced by any Moro or would-be-Moro-animists. It's more the other way around, Moro weapons GOT influenced from would-be prototype blades from other cultures for their Kampilans and their would-be version of the Kris based on other cultural blades.

Speaking of the Kampilan only,

Taken from Cato's "Moro Swords"

""The basic form of the Moro kampilan was borrowed from Malay prototypes. The kampilan profile is strikingly similar to the klewang, mandau (parang ihlang) swords that were used in Indonesia and Malaya (now Malaysia)."

"Dr. Mamitua Saber, noted Maranao expert on the history and culture of the Muslim Filipinos, has found evidence that variants of the kampilan exist in almost every country in insular Southeast Asia, including some of the isolated islands in the Indian Ocean, near Sumatra. It is his belief, however, that the most likely prototype for the Moro kampilan was the klewang, as produced by the inhabitants of the Celebes."

Taken from Krieger's "Primitive Weapons and Armor of the Philippine Islands" (1926):

"HAIRY KAMPILAN. -- This weapon denoted considerable rank on the part of he bearer. It is ornamented with a tuft of tufts of human or horse hair at the sides of the handle. The wooden handle is large, highly ornamented with carvings; bifid pommel. The large wooden cross guard is often provided with sword breaker and wrist protector. Moro. Weapon not essentially Filipino, but introduced by way of Borneo. North Bornean forms resemble it, as do also the north Celebes types with spur pointed at distal end. The weapon resembles the parang-ihlang."

The Moros merely adapted a blade type from someone else and touched it up a bit and made a variant of a blade from another culture. These Kampilans wouldn't have existed or be the same as YOU know it today without Austronesian groups living in today's Malay speaking world. Moro blade ingenuity has NOTHING to do with their "intelligence" either, considering Moro blades like every other blade culture's products, individually VARY in quality. Moros just happened to have been LUCKILY introduced to proto-Kampilans by Malays, Dayaks, etc. kind enough to even BOTHER trading with your Muslim brethren in your country's south today. You even said that the Kampilan was BASED on Middle Eastern swords yourself James. Even YOU never initially believed the Kampilan was essentially a Moro invention.

So just like how YOU berate some famed, high-end, traditional Filipino bolos known today because they wouldn't be the same without the Spanish, neither would some Moro blades such as Kampilans and Moro Kris would be the same or even had existed without the influence of other cultures like maybe Dayaks and Malays. See how your stupid bullshit argument backfires in your face hard??? Thicko???

But I'm not as stupid as you are, despite the huge f*cking essential involvement of Malay/Dayak/etc. on the Moro Kampilan's genesis, I STILL THINK THAT THE KAMPILAN IS A MORO WEAPON strongly to be credited to them as I do with Filipino Bolos. The Moros touched it up enough to be a distinct variant of the original Malay prototype, and because they made the blades themselves and cored it into their culture and their history over time. On the other hand, despite blades like the Ginunting using foreign steel and might have involved Western metallurgical influence, no such European or White is EVER gonna look at forward curved chopping short swords (lacking handguards, with Bakunawa/Naga/Hindu-deity hilts) that they've never seen before, and looks South East Asian in appearance and is never gonna claim that a decently crafted, high-end Ginunting, Pinuti, Garab, Binaroy, etc. is a sole European design despite their partial involvement, I'm sorry, but that's not happening. EVER. Anymore than no European or White is gonna claim that modern made Katanas made by Japanese today are their work just because its using their own exported steel to Japan for example.

Your criticism of Filipino Bolos for having foreign influence gets even more idiotic because it was EVEN IRRELEVANT to your original point and your original argument. You never concerned yourself with the methods of the construction of Filipino blades or what influence of foreign elements it had. In your original comparison. Look what you said, AGAIN.

"Its been reported that Filipino made weapons has always been inferior to Moro made weapons."

Your original argument was that you were comparing FILIPINO MADE blades against MORO MADE blades. No matter how much influence of Spanish there is on a any High-End Steel Visayan or Steel Luzon Sword, it is irrelevant according to your original intended comparison. Because the Bolos I cite in my argument are still FILIPINO MADE regardless And because it is TOTALLY irrelevant to the time period since you're saying "ALWAYS". The point is, these blades are still made by a Filipino with its mixed in Filipino touches so it is a valid component in your original comparison and your original point which you of course are already deviating from. So I have no idea why you're angry at me for bringing up Filipino blades made from Spanish or American steel, wherein old antiques are still amazingly able to chop up wood, to be compared against Moro blades that also coexisted (era wise) alongside such non-Moro Filipino blades, I am merely responding to your claims accordingly. You trying to blame me for your mistakes and stupidities and your failure to form a coherent argument for your beliefs is actually stupid and is a pattern.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
Speaking of "malay" Most citizens of the Philippines today are "malay"
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING THAT MOST FILIPINOS ARE ""MALAY""???? ARE YOU F*CKING INSANE?? F*CKING WRONG THICKO, WHY IS IT THAT YOU TRY TO MAKE YOUR STUPIDITY SOUND INTELLIGENT????

Oh nope! Tagalogs, Cebuanos, Ilokanos, Igorots, Waray, Bikolanos, Ilonggos and shit? F*ck that shit, the Philippines is filled with f*cking Malays speaking a Malayan language and shit. LMFAO!!!!! Maharlika stupidity strikes again. According to you Maharlika, most of the 100 million Filipinos are "Malay" so according to you, there is a higher number of Malays living in the Philippines than there is in f*cking Indonesia, Thailand, Brunei, Singapore and even MALAYSIA itself included in TOTAL, that number around 20 million, THAT MEANS THE ENTIRE MODERN CONSIDERED MALAY WORLD TODAY COMBINED HAS LESS MALAYS THAN THE F*CKING PHILIPPINES. I guess I learned my facts "properly" today from Maharlika Idiot, whoop-de-****ing-do.

Oh shit! I'll probably printscreen your stupid bullshit and splatter it to the faces of your fellow Filipinos so they can see how stupid you are. For a guy who keeps writing stupid idiotic bullshit. You are LITERALLY detached from REALITY, you stupid f*cking idiotic wretch.

You constantly think you got shit on me, like I'll feel like a silly cunt when you're the one writing bullshit that will make ANY Filipino member on this forum facepalm, and that includes the Indonesians and Malaysians ON THIS FORUM, absolutely FAILING to be aware of the existence of the Malay ethnic group I mean't in context. I mean, James, why do you pretend your stupidity is somewhat intellectual? Are you some sort of a "special" kid or something?

YOU ARE THE F*CKING SILLY CUNT, NOT ME.

IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD HIS FACTS PROPERLY LOL.

And if I'm a Bonobo, what does that make you? The Bonobo's shit? Can you not see that whatever insult you throw at me, you are below that instantly? Lol.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
m16's are weapons that originated in the west, just like how swords are weapons too, guess you didn't know that did you bonobo?
And my point to you flew RIGHT over your pea little brain, Thicko. We were discussing the origin of the Dha. M16s have nothing to do with that subject and question. You are making an idiotic false equivocation fallacy. That's your problem James, you have POOR thinking skills.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
As for your point, when did I ever post anything different?
Must we go over this again? First you say, Visayan and Luzon made swords are ALWAYS inferior to Moro made blades and NEVER made steel blades, and now you're saying that Visayans and Luzonese DID make steel blades after I called you out on your bullshit and put your feet to the fire, stop playing dumb. Don't give me this bullshit.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
Stop assuming everyone is a bigot like you, you moron.
You spent much of your time on this thread shitting on Visayans and any non-Moro Filipino in general with disdain and self-hatred bigotry, and you call me the bigot? It's one thing to believe that Moros have a stronger Warrior culture than those North of them, it's another to shit on Visayans with disdain just because they're not something you want them to be. You want to know where you're acting like your narratives are shifting James? WHEN YOU'RE F*CKING DOING IT.

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
so I don't always whoops your ass in these forums all the time LMAO you have nothing but childish rants to counter my Historical views.
Oh yeah, you really are whooping my ass in these forums. Keep telling yourself that. All your arguments are either totally idiotic, inapplicable to the conversation, basically out of context or deflective, you even replace your former arguments with new ones, or ditch old ones and act like for some reason you're dominating the conversation when YOU'RE NOT, I'm the one accusing you and you are defending, even if you prove me wrong at something (besides the Balisong issue) you wouldn't have whooped me at a conversation where you are defending your views. From where I'm standing, You even dropped backing a lot of your narratives just now, such as you trying to disconnect Colonial era indigenous blades to Filipino accomplishments SUSPICIOUSLY. You only even replied to basically just half of my last post here. You are intentionally trying to slither away from this thread QUIETLY. I'm the one kicking your ass, son. Shall I go on?

Quote Originally Posted by MaharlikaTimawa View Post
Its so obvious you would get all offended and have you fag pussy hurt from just mentioning the word "nazi". LOL "struck a nerve" even your comebacks are lame. Take an English class and [B]maybe you can develop a descent insult so I don't always whoops your ass in these forums all the time LMAO you have nothing but childish rants to counter my Historical views.
LMFAO, like your insults are any good or clever themselves, Nazi based insults against a Jew? Totally haven't seen that one before. You could have been cool from the start, you made this conversation a shit-pissing contest, YOU'RE the over-passionate one, not me. You just tick off the moment someone disagrees with you about your poor, cell-phone repairing gypsy moro, who might instead be selling rip off chinese smart phones, while smelling bad.

And a Filipino also has not much leg to stand on to use Nazis as an insult against a Jew, considering neo-Nazis and Stormfags today can think Filipinos are even more inferior to them than Jews are. They can mention how your people turned these beautiful islands into a garbage shit hole, as they say, you as inferior brown nigger sub-mongoloid monkeys as I've heard from some. So I have no idea why you use such Race supremacists as some sort of leverage against me.

No Filipino economic immigrant such as yourself has any right to tell an American Jew to get to an English class considering your people are one of the most insecure and conscious about your English speaking skills, even your own people are seen on this forum complaining about that shit. And even YOU psychologically demonstrate this Filipino "English speaking skill" insecurity with this awkward advice of yours. I've been speaking English before you and your economic immigrant family even dared move to America to find a better life like scurried rats. Thanks, but your advice is unwanted.

And right, my insults are so lame that you literally copied them in the other thread, princess. Which means it ticked you off. So I know that's bullshit. Besides that, even if my comebacks were lame, your own comeback of you having the need to advice me about out how my comebacks are lame is IN FACT LAME.

If there's anything I learned from past flame debates I had with people with similar asshole syndrome to yours, is that it doesn't matter how bad or great my insults objectively are, WHAT MATTERS is that YOU, who is my opponent, THINK AND BELIEVE that I, as your opponent believe that my insults get to you and that my insults good, it's all about you worrying about your opponent's view of you and what he thinks of you, not so much the insults themselves

By telling me my insults are "lame" you psychologically admit that my insults DO piss you off and that they're not lame, so no. My insults are not lame, in fact, they're well timed, and you time and time and again subtly admit that, Thicko.

And don't even come to me with accusations of "Childish" you started running bullshit intensities with Selurong and passive aggressively approached this thread with hostility. Don't make insults that are LITERALLY reverse applicable. You'll make yourself look stupid again.

If you really have other things better to do, I suggest you stop replying then, so that excuse is bullshit. LMFAO

Want another round of whooping Thicko James?