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lmao, all your arguments are over exaggerated to the max.
An exaggerated argument is a false argument, moron LMAO.
You addressed less of my arguments AGAIN, and refrain from backing up crappy arguments you made that you no longer back up. Which of my arguments are exaggerated? I give context, you don't.
You reply at a time assuming I would be inactive and would not reply. How Cute. What a big tough guy you are.
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Nothing about what I said on how Visayans blade smithing was inferior to moro and their neighbors in Thailand, Indonesia as an example are wrong. They're blades are generally inferior and aren't comparable to European, Japanese, Moro, and Borneo blades which they actually bought in replace of their own manufactured blades, that is a fact.
And nothing about what I said against you was wrong either. You seem to be confused about the subject in context. I personally don't give a rats ass about soft iron (that you now call pig iron all of a sudden) blades. I talk about like Filipino Bolos made of imported steel. I don't care where the steel came from or who taught who.
Both Visayans and Moros would be stuck with the stone age without external civilization influence.
Nothing about what you said was technically wrong, but you extrapolated and exaggerated your claims that leads to out of context conclusions like VISAYAN BLADES ARE ALWASYS INFERIOR non sense.
When the vast majority of Filipino Martial Artists and handlers of blades talk about Visayan Blades, barely anybody talks about pre-16th century blades or pig iron blades, we talk about blades made at least a hundred years ago.
You are like, in the absolute minority here when discussing Filipino blades about which type you speak of. Spreading your exaggerations unseen elsewhere.
No, please stop. Visayan Made Blades like quality antiques of Heavy Bolos from the Visayas for example are not inferior to High End Moro Blades in quality. Everyone who has handled antique Filipino Blades knows this.
What you were wrong about was assuming that this thread was only talking about pre-16th century or so Visayan Blades when we could be literally talking about well made Toledo Blades. You are being DISHONEST.
It's no better than when Moros get influences of their blades from trading. What, did you think a bunch of Austronesian Islanders came up with Blade Smithing on their own? They learned that from SOMEONE. It's no different.
Want to talk about shit of supposedly weak Visayan blades? That's fine, make another thread for it. We here on the other hand would rather talk about quality blades like Binangons, Ginuntings, Tenegres that are good Visayan Blades and even modern inventions like the Modern Recon Ginunting.
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s for the obsidian, it has its pros and cons but the Macuahuitl in comparison to swords in Luzon and Visayan has a shit ton more pros/advantages as opposed to the short swords used in those islands.
Oh, so a Macuahuitl is better than blades used like forward chopping bolos from the Visayas that easily chop wood with long lasting quality? Please stop. This is getting embarrassing. I already debunked all your absurd claims.
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I also never stated that the Moros used only swords that were 30 inches and above, I just said that they had a lot of swords that do where else all the "swords" used in the Visayans were about two feet and never in three or more.
Oh, the mental gymnastics is strong on this one.
You still said dozens of stupid things. Like confusing my usage of Malay (embarassingly), claiming that all Moro Weapons are always superior to all Visayan Blades (even though handlers of Filipino Blades deny that stereotype you push) and you did say ALWAYS don't BS me..... or implying that the Kampilan's origin was influenced by the Philippines when they merely adopted the design and changed it up a bit and were influenced by the outside. LOL!!!! We could go on. Stop acting like you got the high ground.
I SCHOOLED YOU countless times. It's kind of funny you still want some more.
I never "exaggerated" you are the one cutting context out. This thread was never about only Filipino Blades during the times when Visayans did not have as much access to resources as the Moros did which is the only periods where their blades sucked and nobody cares about them now for research at the most. It's about ALL Filipino Blades including the good ones when Visayans got better access to resources.
I'd even push that it doesn't matter what era. I don't give a rats ass if a Moro ripped off their Kampilan designs from Borneo or whatever same as I don't give a rats ass if a Visayan makes their well made blades with Toledo steel.
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The visayans were given "pig iron" or iron that could break like glass. That type of iron is not fit for making good quality swords. Its common sense that making a tool out of something brittle results in that same brittle quality, ****ing moron.
Well, most discussions regarding Visayan Blades kept in collections and are even sometimes trained with, are about the Toledo ones and good quality ones. Whoever the hell wants to nitpick all day, talks about Pig Iron Visayan Blades when we talk about Visayan Bolos? Stop nitpicking and lowballing.
You were exposed. You said Visayan blades were ALWAYS inferior, this is not true, I debunked that.
I'm talking about Ginuntings, Binangons, Tenegre, heavy as hell Visayan Bolos. This is getting absurd.
I get far more intellectual discussions arguing with White Nationalists from Stormfront than I have with you.
Just admit you were wrong in misunderstanding crap left and right. Lol