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How Asian-American Leaders Are Grappling With Xenophobia Amid Coronavirus vs Black History

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ASIANS 4 BLACK LIVES MATTER 黑人的命也是命 avatar
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After listening to Jason Black on 3-29-2020: Asia: Taking Both Sides of The Argument. I have this question, that needs to be discussed.


Can someone explain to me how Asians (Chinese) are equally the victims of marginalization, disfranchisement etc. all throughout American history, as this author Matt Stevens is claiming?

He claimed that Asians have been targeted by hate crimes for decades etc. So we have to pull up some stats to see if he is lying or not. I start with Hate Crimes, since that goes directly into the argument of xenophobia.

How Asian-American Leaders Are Grappling With Xenophobia Amid Coronavirus

"As Asian-Americans face racist attacks and President Trump has tied the virus to China, community and political leaders have tried to comfort constituents. But even they admit to feeling unnerved."

See the link here, article in the New York Times:
How Asian-American Leaders Are Grappling With Xenophobia Amid Coronavirus

FBI, Hate crime statistics comparison.

2004

67.5 percent resulted from an anti-black bias,

Slightly more than 5 percent (5.2) of racially motivated incidents were driven by an anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias

Hate Crime 2004 Section 1

2005

"67.9 percent were victims of an anti-black bias.”

"4.9 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias."

Hate Crime 2005

2006

"66.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.”

"4.8 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias."

Hate Crime 2006

2007

"69.3 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias”.

"4.7 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Hate Crime 2007

2008

"72.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.”

"4.7 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Hate Crime 2008

2009

"71.5 percent were victims because of an offender’s anti-black bias”

"3.7 percent were victims because of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Hate Crime 2009

2010

"70.0 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias”.

"5.1 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Victims

Table 1

2011

"71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.’

"4.8 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Victims

Table 1

2012

"66.2 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias".

"4.1 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias".

Victims

Table 1

2013

"66.5 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias.”

"4.6 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

2014

"62.7 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias".

"6.2 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

2015

"52.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias".

"3.2 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

2016

"50.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias".

"3.1 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

2017

"48.6 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias.”

"3.3 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

2018

“47.1 percent were victims of crimes motivated by offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias“

"3.4 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias".

Victims

Table 1

 
Posted : 11/03/2021 7:50 pm
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The guy is trying to make it as if Asians have been the victims of marginalization and stigmatization. There is where he made the comparison. This doesn’t mean he has to mention the word Black. The argument he made is so that Asians need to be compensated (reparations) for something that happened within the last few weeks-months. Whereas Black Americans have been ignored for the justice claim of reparations. He claimed that Asians have been treated so horrible (as model minorities). Yet, when we look (evaluate) history we don’t see what he claims. Meanwhile we do see this in the Black experience.

You say you read it within 3 minutes, and that right there is the problem. You need to take time and think things over, before responding.

What is claimed here is utter nonsense.

After enduring decades of exclusion, racism and discrimination that include some of the darkest chapters of American history, Asian-Americans entered 2020 with reason for optimism on the political front.

A wave of second-generation Asian-Americans had come of age, sparking hope that they could help break voter turnout records in the fall.

And three people with roots in the diaspora had run for the country’s highest office during the same cycle, with one of them, Andrew Yang, energizing Asian-American votersin a fashion seldom seen before.”
~
Matt Stevens

"White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable

White families quickly recuperated financial losses after the Civil War, and then created a Jim Crow credit system to bring more white families into money.

It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.

“Despite the progress black families have made in civic and economic life since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they face systemic and cumulative barriers on the road to wealth building due to discrimination, poverty, and a shortage of social connections,” reads the report, “as both mechanisms and results of racial economic inequity.”

Crucial to understanding how to close that gap—such that it can actually be closed—is grappling with how it was created in the first place. The McKinsey report identifies four components that perpetuate this gap—family wealth, family income, family savings, and community context (a community’s collective public and private assets). Black families have not been able to build wealth due to “unmet needs and obstacles” across these four dimensions.

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That’s the deficit-lens on the problem as it pertains to black families. But it’s worth looking at how each of those components also played a huge role in boosting white families’ financial standing to begin with. The wealth, income, and savings that white families accumulated during slavery supplied the economic thew that catapulted them into elite affluent status during the country’s first two centuries of existence. But it was community context and creative credit machinations that helped white families maintain that status over the ensuing two centuries, putting into doubt whether a closure of the black-white racial wealth gap is even possible given these deeply entrenched advantages.

Community context and connections

A study on the transfer of wealth from Southern slaveholding families to their children helps explain how these advantages came about. Strikingly, the inheritance of actual material profits from the slavery-based economy isn’t the culprit some suppose. The economists Leah Platt Boustan of Princeton University; Katherine Eriksson of the University of California, Davis; and Philipp Ager of the University of Southern Denmark found in their study, “The Intergenerational Effects of a Large Wealth Shock: White Southerners After the Civil War,” that white resilience to economic catastrophe has been almost impenetrable.

According to the study, the largest slaveholding families in the South took a huge hit after the Civil War—a 38 percent drop at the median and a 75 percent loss among the top wealthiest families between 1860, a peak year for slavery profits, and 1870. But by 1880, many of the sons of those families had already recovered that wealth. By 1900, the sons of the richest slaveholders had not only financially recovered but were wealthier than the sons of families who were just as wealthy before the Civil War, but from mostly non-slaveholding assets and activities.

It took just one generation for white slaveholding families to regain their riches, and this rebound was not due to an inheritance of slavery profits. Much of that was devoured by the war, emancipation, and regressive crop productivity in the South after the war. Nor was the recovery owed to an inheritance of entrepreneurial skills, which the study ruled out because of the drastic transition of the economy from agricultural-based to industrial-based.

“Even destroying the capital stock or temporarily expropriating the land of wealthy households would not have been enough to prevent their sons from experiencing full recovery.”

The Southern dollar rally might have had something to do with those slaveholders’ sons marrying into wealthier families. But most of the wealth recovered by slaveholders’ children came from occupation-based earnings. The most likely explanation for the restoration of their wealth, according to the study, is the “role of social networks in facilitating employment opportunities and access to credit”—or, in other words, community context. The wealthy slaveholding families were cozy enough with the wealthy families who weren’t totally in the slavery business to leverage their relationships into preservation of their elite status.

“We think the most likely explanation for the rapid recovery of slaveholders’ sons is that slaveholding families were embedded in social networks that facilitated adjustments to wartime losses,” reads the study. One critical adjustment facilitated in this respect was credit, which was “surprising in light of the fact that slave collateral formed the basis for nearly all southern credit relations and was completely wiped out after emancipation.”

Also wiped out were, in some cases, the land and plantations themselves, which were the final major appreciable assets that some former slaveholding families possessed after the war. The study examines General William T. Sherman’s “March to the Sea” and his “Special Field Order No. 15,” which directed Union troops to destroy and confiscate Confederate family homes, businesses, and properties along the Carolina and Georgia coasts. The households targeted and toppled by Sherman’s troops lost considerable wealth, on top of losing their slaveholding assets. But by 1880, those same ransacked families had financially recuperated. By that year, their wealth had even surpassed that of the wealthy families of neighboring counties that Sherman did not invade.

“Results suggest that even destroying the capital stock or temporarily expropriating the land of wealthy households would not have been enough to prevent their sons from experiencing full recovery in a generation,” reads the study.

Those coastal families achieved recovery through the same means that other white former-slaveholding families achieved it throughout the South: via their connections to those commandeering capital and finance in the post-Civil War milieu. Slaveholding families’ pre-war material resources and wealth did “not ultimately affect” their children’s future comeuppance, and neither did these advantages stop with their sons. By 1940, even the grandsons of former slaveholders were doing better than similarly situated non-slaveholding families, by graduating from high school and college— fairly uncommon in the South at the time—and settling securely into white-collar jobs.

“Jim Crow Credit”

The 1940s were also the period when white families were able to further enhance their wealth prospects through new credit and finance instruments created as part of the New Deal. At this point, white families and farm owners were taking advantage of loans created by what was then called the Federal Housing Administration and the Farm Security Administration to leverage their way into wealth. Whereas before the Civil War, mortgages and credit were collateralized on the backs of enslaved Africans as properties, by 1940 white families could obtain mortgages and credit collateralized by land, houses, and farms. And they didn’t have to come from wealthy families or be wealthy themselves to obtain this financing.

African American farmers and families, meanwhile, were unable to establish the wealth that former slaveholding families were re-establishing, nor were they able to access the FHA and FSA loans at the same rates as whites. The Atlantic’s Vann Newkirk describes in his story “The Great Land Robbery” how black farmers lost their land and farms during this time period:

While most of the black land loss appears on its face to have been through legal mechanisms—“the tax sale; the partition sale; and the foreclosure”—it mainly stemmed from illegal pressures, including discrimination in federal and state programs, swindles by lawyers and speculators, unlawful denials of private loans, and even outright acts of violence or intimidation. Discriminatory loan servicing and loan denial by white-controlled [Farmers Home Administration] and [Agricultural Stabilization and Conservation Service] committees forced black farmers into foreclosure, after which their property could be purchased by wealthy landowners, almost all of whom were white. []
~Brentin Mock; September 20, 2019
The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

 
Posted : 11/03/2021 7:51 pm