Filipinos are one of the most genetically distant Mongoloid groups to Native Americans. – Page 9 – Anthropology, Population Genetics & Human Evolution

Qamzardaan · 2020-11-09T07:37:53Z

@rodriguez @prau123 @selurong @rambo Believe it or not, but Filipinos are one of the most genetically distant Mongoloids to Native Americans. Look at how further away the Native Americans (Mixe, Aymara, Surui) are from the Luzon (Filipino) sample. Even heavily Mongoloid/ENA shifted Europeans such as Udmurt, Saami, Chuvash or South Asians/South Central Asians such as Velamas, Punjabi Sikh India, Balochi are genetically closer to Luzon than the Native American samples are. Furthermore, look at how Finnish_East and Chechen are genetically closer to the Luzon than the Aymara (a Native American ethnic group from South America) are to the Luzon. Using Global 25: one of the best genetic calculators out there. It shows the genetically closest/least distant to the furthest/most distant groups to Filipinos (Luzon, Vizayan). The more bottom the population, the more distant it is from the target population. For example, Jomon being under the Han_Shanxi for Luzon means the Jomon is genetically further away from the Luzon Filipino than Han Chinese from Shanxi Province is to the Luzon. Distance to: Luzon Same thing with the Vizayan (Filipino) sample. Look at how the Balochi and Finnish_East are genetically closer to the Vizayan Filipino than the Mixe despite the latter being predominantly West Eurasian or how the Chechen and Egyptian arre genetically closer to the Vizayan than the Aymara (a Native American ethnic group from the Andean region of South America) are to the Filipino individual. Distance to: Vizayan This is also the reversal with Native Americans. Filipinos are one of the most distant groups genetically to them: A Genetic Distance Run using Global 25: one of the best genetic calculators out there by Davidski: Surui (a Native American tribe from South America) from most to least. Look at how faraway from Surui the Filipino samples are (Luzon and Igorot). Even some Caucasoids such as Mari, Udmurt, Saami, Turkmen or some Tatars are genetically closer to Surui than Filipinos are. The closest pops to the Surui are Chukchi, Kirghiz, Selkup who are Paleosiberian and Central Asian. Distance to: Surui Or compare to the Pima, a Native American tribe from Southwestern USA/Northern Mexico. Once again, the Filipinos (Luzon, Igorot) are at the bottom which means the most distant/furthest away. Some Caucasoids like Mari, Turkmen, Udmurt, Saami, some Tatars seem genetically closer to the Pima than Filipinos are. Closest pops are Chukchi, Kirghiz, Kazakh who are Paleosiberian and Central Asian. Distance to: Pima Reasons for why Filipinos and Natives could be extremely genetically distant from one another. 1) Native Americans are genetically very divergent from other "Mongoloids" including Filipinos due to being separated from Asians for at least 20,000 years or more after they move to the Americas 2) Native Americans have 30-40% ANE (even up to 45% ANE according to some qpAdm formal stat results that I saw), a predominantly ancient West Eurasian component that they shared with South Asians, Central Asians and Caucasoids such as West Asians, Europeans, Middle Easterners. Most Mongoloids including Filipinos lack ANE or if they have it is very negligible/almost zero amounts which they received from their Iberian admix. Spaniards have some ANE but pretty low compared to Northern Euros and Eastern Euros. 3) ANE also means around 23-30% West Eurasian ancestry or more for Native Americans. Filipinos on the other hand, are predominantly or almost 100% East Eurasian (its a term to refer to those in the Mongoloid and Australoid genetic cluster). 4) The East Eurasian ancestry of Native Americans is Siberian-derived and related to Paleo-Siberian/Devil's Gate which is the main ancestors of Tungusic tribes which is very different and distinct from the East Eurasian ancestry of Filipinos which originates from Southern China and closely related to Taiwanese Aborigines. I can show you how I get these distance numbers if you want.

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I don't think he was trying to troll us, I think he is just curious about our history.

Posted : 23/11/2020 12:48 am

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The Amerindians of Argentina.

I have been to Argentina, The Amerindians in Argentina are not so different racially compared to the rest of South America.

Posted : 23/11/2020 1:07 am

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Buenos Aires and Pampas region may have typical Native American Indian appearance but in a remote southern city such as Ushuaia located in Tierra del Fuego, the Natives that use to inhabit this icy desolate landscape appeared either Amerindian or Siberian and they were taller and physically built strong to survive.

SOURCES - Rellman Foods

End of the Earth in Argentina, South America - G Adventures

Posted : 23/11/2020 1:44 am

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Amerindians in general don't look like Chinese at all of course. They don't even look like NE Asians or Siberians. Hell, its hard to believe Siberians are Amerindians closest Old World relatives considering the dark skin and tropical adapted phenotypes and features that a lot Amerindians look.

What I am trying to point out is that some of them like those in Patagonia/Tierra Del Fuego and also in Alaska, Canada might look pseudo NE Asian or Siberian because they live in extremely cold icy climates similar to those of Siberia just like certain groups of Amerindians can sort of resemble Pacific Islanders and Pinoys/other SE Asians because they live in tropical hot humid climates.

But it doesn't irritate you if your Amerindian ancestors look like Pacific Islanders or SE Asians/Philipinos?

Why do you have bias and prejudice against Chinese or NE Asians or even Siberians?

You got facebook?

I am not irritated that my ancestors look like Philippinos because they do to some extend.

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Posted : 23/11/2020 1:56 am

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my ancestors look similar to Philippinos

Posted : 23/11/2020 1:58 am