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Filipinos are one of the most genetically distant Mongoloid groups to Native Americans.

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SapphireSky
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@prau123 Europeans have 3 different origins. The ones that were related to proto-mongoloids were the ANE (Ancient North Eurasians) and they were heavily mixed with European Hunter-Gatherers and Early-European Farmers (Basque-Sardinian like DNA) to form modern white/MENA people. 

Some pure Europeans with a lot of ANE can look mongoloid, especially with the eyes.

 
Posted : 24/11/2022 6:23 pm
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@sapphiresky , given the 3 major ancestral genetic components of Caucasoids, ANE, EHG, and EEF which Mongoloids and Eastern Australoids don't have as an ancient component, it doesn't appear that Caucasoids have a recent common ancestor with Mongoloids and Australoids, at least in the past 50,000 years, and more likely past 100,000 years or longer.  It would take tens of thousands of years to develop those fundamentally different components, unless ANE, EHG, and EEF were developed partially by interbreeding with Neandertals and Denisovans and other earlier hominins of Western and Northern Eurasia.  I've read in the past that Mongoloids and Caucasoids had not differentiated from each other yet as late as 20-25k ago which is surprisingly late in my opinion given the very different phenotypes between Caucasoids and Mongoloids, and the different phenotypes within Caucasoids and Mongoloids. 

This is the Out of Africa narrative that I'm beginning to think now.  One group of Out of Africans migrates eastward below the Himalayas via India into Southeast Asia, and eventually migrating north to East Asia, and Siberia.  This is the Australoid and Mongoloid group.  The other Out of Africa group migrated into Europe and the Middle East and Central Asia and eventually into parts of North Eurasia.  This group (the Western Australoid? and Caucasoidal group) likely took different routes, and faced Ice Age conditions such as ice sheets, coldness, and heavy snow fall, and had little resources in food and nutrition compared to their eastern brethren, thus their populations were smaller and very isolated from one another; perhaps the only relatively large populations were the ones that settled around the Mediterranean Sea.  For some reason I can't see this separation between Caucasoids and Mongoloids within the past 20-25k years.  It would have to have happened a lot longer ago, more like 100k to 200k years ago or even longer.       

    

 
Posted : 25/11/2022 9:01 pm
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@prau123 Yeah that's what I think too. They must have separated and re-mixed again in Central/North Asia to develop into ANE then mix back with EHG and EEF. Unless maybe ANE was just that weird evolution that evolved into mixed looking Eurasians naturally and evolved further into distinct European and Asian populations later on, can't be too sure.

 
Posted : 30/11/2022 4:17 am
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@sapphiresky , that's where I stand also.  But between the two, I'm liking the theory that ANE evolved eventually into distinct European (Caucasoid) and Asian (Mongoloid populations).  Do Mongoloids have ANE ancestry?  That would really show a shared ancestry between Mongoloids and Caucasoids in relatively recent times, and after the most recent Out of Africa migration. 

 
Posted : 30/11/2022 12:31 pm
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