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Chinese are some of the most racist people on earth. They look down on SEA. They are the group who scream the loudest about affirmative action which gives black people unfair advantage. Now all of the sudden they are champions of the blacks. News for you blacks don’t like Chinese. Talk to my friends who are from Africa. They will tell you!

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@athena maybe because they are opening their eyes that systemic racism actually exists 😯. It pays to actually to listen to people.

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@naval black immigrants that came to America are some of the most successful groups and they’re blackest of the blacks. You should listen to them.

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@athena Nigerians have not been here long enough to understand.

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@naval maybe ignorance is bliss. Maybe that's why they're making money hand over-fist. I  know many nigerians, Ghanians, and South africans blacks who as first gen immigrants rank high in the social economics strata. They suffer no discrimination both professionally and socially.

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@athena 

Job application with black names face discrimination. this systemic racism also effect Asians with Chinese names. 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/african-americans-face-systematic-obstacles-getting-good-jobs/

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@naval the wealth discrepancies are due to many factors. You only assume race as the only factor. Granted when it comes to the corporate world, skills/education count to a certain point, then the differential involve intangible factors such as  office politics. That is the only area where I see why certain types of people don't get the same compensation as some others when all other factors are equal.

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@athena Do you have any idea how many East Asians are kept out from the professional world because of spying concerns? In the corporate world, nobody wants to see too many East Asians or blacks in the workforce at the highest level.

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@naval those East Asians happened to be Chinese intellectual thieves. So yeah, they need to be kept out. Why are you so concerned about chines anyway? They certainly don’t give a rats ass about SE Asians.

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@athena I don't care about Chinese people unless they renounce racism. it's me pointing out that systemic racism exist!

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@naval they renounce racism against themselves. They look down on blacks, SE Asians. Don’t get caught into their self serving behavior. But I really think you’re an employee of Chinese lives matter bc your enthusiasm is overwhelming.

Your chance of being attacked for your race per the article you posted is 0.003%. Avoid the ghetto neighborhoods and your chances will be close to Zero. During ObAma birth flu endemic, I got called racial slurs by a black girl bc I was in a bad neighborhood. So far during this pandemic I haven’t been a victim as with my other Asian friends. Racism will always exists so yeah if you ask a million people, you will find examples. Be aware but don’t be afraid. 

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@athena Sorry to hear about being called a bird flu But I don't see one incident as related to systemic racism. 

Chinese in general are very racist to Blacks or anyone with dark skin. The Asians in Black lives Matter were honest enough to admit that anti black racism exists in the Chinese community. 

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@naval were not talking about systemic racism here. You were talking about hate crime remember?

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@athena The rise of hate crimes is the manifestation of systemic racism made to keep east asian looking people away from western countries.

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@naval Chinese intellectual property stealing is an example of systemic racism because it robs the west of hard earned money.

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@athena I don't get it?

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@naval I encourage you strongly read this article: 

 

House Hearing, 109 Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]


 
                      INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT 
                          IN CHINA AND RUSSIA

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg21217/html/CHRG-109hhrg21217.htm

 

it’s long but explains very well the problem. I’ll summarize for you  but still not as good as the article. Basically stealing intellectual properties allow China to set up manufacturing businesses in China, undercutting products manufactured at home. A large proportions  of low skilled manufacturing jobs are held by minorities or new immigrants of color. Another more widespread problems is american companies will eithe pr go out of business due to cost, or relocate jobs overseas, costing lots of jobs that relate to the companies. Ie within the corporation, you need man low level workers including maintenance ie workers most of whom are minorities. The impact is far reaching.

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@athena Systemic racism is more like Chinese are opening business everywhere but you can't do the same to China. They hire *only* their own so they can drain the wealth of the host countries they serve. 

 

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@naval you are partially correct. Unequal treatment of business practices is one form of ‘systemic racism’ by your belief system. The the other part of the trade inequity and also a bigger part, intellectual theft and undercutting US businesses and causing closing down of jobs that were occupied by many minorities. The other part is when they partner with US firms, they demand them to turn over the technology. However this second scenario is due to corporate greed. What could be done to remedy is stopping intellectual theft. We have plenty of evidence of that and Chinese are notorious for that problem.

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@athena The Chinese don't listen to hip hop music unless they can steal the culture of other people and make money selling rap music to black people.

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@athena you claim such vileful thoughts about Chinese with no evidence for racist behavior, but you think blacks openly disliking Chinese, mocking them, stealing from them, beat them up, is all okay. you don't have the moral spine you think you have, do you agree?

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@wei-nihao I posted evidence. Even the Chinese lives matter guy started a threat court chines racist behavior. I myself saw with my own eyes. A small example was when a Chinese girl was looking at joy luck club cast on the internet she said the actress Lauren Tom was ugly because she was Vietnamese. That’s a very small but very common Chinese ugly behavior.

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@athena if we're racist how come we respect leaders from black and SEA nations? making casual generalizations is proof we're not racist. racism is when you want to hurt them like pushing them into subway. chinese are peaceful people who respect all respectful people, that's why we can succeed in Africa and other countries.

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@wei-nihao anything from making derogatory comments to physical violence constitute hate crimes. Respectful behavior is the norm in diplomatic dealings. Doesn’t matter if your president of rich county or poor country that’s just protocols.

 

have you heard of Chinese uyghur genocide? 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

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@athena no making comments is not a hate crime. and chinese never make derogatory comments in public, unlike other races who do make them in public.

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@wei-nihao it is according to the Chinese that complained they are victims just because some tell them to go bac to China.

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@athena when did chinese ever tell another race to do something to their face? 

you have some kind of stockholm syndrome, you love the aggressors but blame the victims of racism. 

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@wei-nihao however they are free to institute racist policy

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/foreigners-black-people-unwelcome-parts-china-amid-covid/story?id=70182204

 

how about uyghur genocide?

 

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@athena it's not racist policy, it's health policy. we're the only successful nation against covid.

even the US have stopped saying uyghur genocide. they know it's something made up by Trump to attack China. 

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@wei-nihao You’re in denial. These people were treated very poorly. Imagine they do that to Chinese here, throw them out of hotels, thei own hosing. Boy! Can’t you imagine the outrage?  Chines are crying over someone tell them go back to China. Nobody throw them out.

chine uyghur genocide as with most news. They don’t talk about after a while but is still going on.

Wikipedia is lefty,  to related to Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang that is often characterized as genocide. Since 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, has pursued policies that incarcerated more than an estimated one million TurkicMuslims in internment camps without any legal process.[3][4][5] This is the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.[6][7] Thousands of mosques have been destroyed or damaged,[8] and hundreds of thousands of children have been forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools.[9][10]

Government policies have included the arbitrary detention of Uyghurs in state-sponsored internment camps,[11][12] forced labor,[13][14] suppression of Uyghur

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@athena do you understand how many people china concentrated to contain covid? nobody was thrown out on the streets, they were to go to isolation facility.

the worst that happened in xinjiang was some people had to go to boarding schools. this was to combat numerous cases of terrorism.

try to get a basic, reasonable understanding of why china does a thing, before you jump in parroting western media's accusations, which are motivated by suppressing China's success.

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Wow, denied services, evicted from their apartments. while most cases of covid are from Chinese, not Africans.

 

Landlords then evicted African residents, forcing many to sleep on the street, and hotels, shops, and restaurants refused African customers. Other foreign groups have generally not been subjected to similar

 

….There was no evident scientific basis for the policy. Most imported cases of Covid-19 to the province were Chinese nationals returning from abroad. Many Africans had already tested negative for coronavirus, had no recent travel history, or had not been in contact with known Covid-19 patients.

 

 

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@athena your mind is always filled by misleading hostile articles like this.

chinese nationals who return to china follow the quarantine policy. for a short period of time, before they had uniform enforcement at the entry-points, some Africans evaded these controls. that's why there was the panic in Canton and maybe unfriendly attitude towards Africans. 

it's a short term thing during a crisis, nobody even talks about it except you it seems.

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https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/05/china-covid-19-discrimination-against-africans#

no Chinese here are banned from any establishment, or forced to test, or evicted. 

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@athena human rights watch is very biases they're always consisting of westerners accusing non-westerners, but never talk about iraq or afghanistan.

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@wei-nihao were talking about issues going on right now in the respective countries relating to racism. Once you start talking about other countries and history then it’s a much broader subject. Keep on topic please.

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@athena it's the same topic, because it shows what they really care about is not human rights, their information and their opinion are worthless.

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@wei-nihao now you’re making claims about war and how it relates to human rights. That’s a huge topic. We’re talking about racism here.

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@athena you read too much bullshit sources, that's the problem here

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Not only uyghurs but Tibetan too. Othe ethnics beware 

There are 12 million Uyghurs in Xinjiang, up to seven million Tibetans in the Tibet Autonomous Region, and nearly six million Mongols, mainly concentrated in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region on China’s northern border with Mongolia and Russia.

Previous RFA reports have documented Chinese government policies to reduce or eliminate culture and language education in schools in Xinjiang, Tibet, and Inner Mongolia, causing friction with local communities and prompting protests against the moves.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/ethnic-groups-09032021172409.html

 

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@athena there were only 2 milliion uyghurs in 1949, 12 million today

there were 5 million native americans, 0.2 million today. Radio Free America is full of shit

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Wrong. Only 1 million Native American when the white settlers came to North America. Now there 5.2 million in the US alone. North America also includes Mexico and a Canada so the numbers are much higher.

There are 5.2 million American Indians and Alaska Natives making up approximately 2 percent of the U.S. population. There are 14 states with more than 100,000 American Indian or Alaska Native residents.

Uyghurs were used in medical experimentation, organ harvesting, forced sterilization, died in prisons. The number you claimed is a lie. From the propanda China article

https://www.wionews.com/world/chinas-white-paper-claims-rise-in-uyghur-population-in-xinjiang-416308

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@athena no one but you deny genocide of native americans. it seems you didn't learn any US history.

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@wei-nihao lol, you lied again. You call it genocide. I call it war.  Big difference. Whatever you call it,  It ended 300 years ago. China genocide is still going on.

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@athena nothing you said is right

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