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Politics & Ideology [Solved] The End of China

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The downfall of China is mostly self inflicted by Chinese themselves. There is no Chinese product that is superior than a Japanese or a Korean product. The only thing the Chinese had was mass production capacity. They are only good at dumping mass amount of cheap consumer goods (like furnitures, textiles, etc...) & industrial materials (like steels) onto the global market. But due to 1 child policy & fastest ageing demographics itw, their productivity has stagnated and their consumption base is basically halved. China is utterly dependant on western consumers to keep their population employed. But consumption in the Western world (especially in Europe) has been in decline since 2008 so the Chinese have resorted to hyper financing to keep their economy growing & keep people employed. But this economic development model has finally ran out of steam.

So the question is: how can you grow your economy when your number of workers & consumers are decreasing? The only answer to this is to use your access to the labor & consumer market in other nations. While the Japanese & Koreans outsource their production to other nations, seek to influence them through soft power and make them become loyal customers of Japanese & Korean brands, Chinese seek to subjucate everyone around them like they did to Tibetans, Uyghurs. Thankfully, the world (especially US) has woken up to Chinese malicious intents and will decouple from China as time goes on.

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The Yanks made a mistake in thinking that a more prosperous China would become a more resposible actor on the world stage like your Japan & Korea but China ends up as a genocidal regime that seeks to subjucate its neighbours. It seeks to bully its neighbours into submission. China is a Frankenstein monster fed by the West.

Due to alignment with Soviet Union after the Sino-Soviet split, Vietnam was antagonized & isolated on the international stage by the West and suffered bully tactics from China. But even an isolated Vietnam stood its ground against Chinese invasion and deposed a genocidal pro China Khmer Rouge. Only in recent times do the Yanks realize the mistake of making China more prosperous and see Vietnam as an informal strategic partner. Without trading with the West, modern China would revert back to the China in first years of 1 child policy. Mass culling of the elderly to save the youngsters from famine.

Im glad to see the rise & the death of Han chauvinism within my lifetime. Chinese century was it supposed to be. China was supposed to surpass America. Now people say its an Asian century. Dont believe in any pan Asian brotherhood spewed by Chinese. It has never been their ambition. Even though Japanese will be the language that my future children (and the future children of Malays & Pinoys) have to learn, Vietnam no longer has to worry about an expansionist China that wants to steal everything in Vietnam's sea.

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@dadadas China used the threat of the Soviet Union to trick western nations to transfer wealth. China joined the WTO 2001 just 10 years after the fall of the Soviet Union. By the 2000's China no leverage disappeared but western countries got too busy fighting Iraq & Afghanistan.

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What is the future of China you may ask? China will descend into a technocratic dictatorship as there isnt enough jobs & food for everyone. The CCP will try to control every aspect of its citizens daily life. Where you go, what you eat, whom you meet, etc... will be known by the CCP. The lockdowns & quarantines are not purely for health reasons. These draconian measures are to reduce China's food consumption, make Chinese used to a high degree of control from the government & therefore become less resistant to an even higher degree of control from the CCP in the future. Smart Chinese know this and leave the country after Xi Jinping became the emperor. Dumb sheeps stay behind to get slaughtered.

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China suffers from both poor soils and a drought-and-floodprone climatic geography. Its farmers can only keep China fed by applying five times the inputs of the global norm. This only works with, you guessed it, bottomless financing. So when China’s financial model inevitably fails, the country won’t simply suffer a subprime-style collapse in ever subsector simultaneously, it will face famine.

https://zeihan.com/a-failure-of-leadership-part-iii-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-china/

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@dadadas The rivers in China are drying up. No Ukraine fertilizer for the crops. Farm animals are dying. Finacial breakdown. huge chunk of unemployed youth.

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Planned economy incoming?

Communal canteens

State owned enterprises mergers.

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