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Manila Acapulco Galleons: Trade Products, Treasures and Migration

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The Galleon Trade route in both the Pacific and Atlantic.

 

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Spain had trade routes on both Atlantic and Pacific Ocean except Spice Islands which were only accessible by Portugal.

 

 

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G is for the Galleon Trade – Morrighan's Muse (morrighansmuse.com)

 

 

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I'm sure they left out the S E X trading out of the history books

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I doubt that they actually teach Manila Acapulco Galleon Trade in finer details in history books.  

 

 

 

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we can only depend on ourselves to tell the history for what it is. we can't rely on other people to take notes on our history. 

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There were a lot activities on the ship considering they had to travel 5 to 6 months on Pacific Ocean. 

The sources in the books that they provided are base primarily from actual peoples' story that were passed down to them from one generation to the next.

 

 

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I read somewhere that the Manila Galleons were mostlu dealing in illegal stuff. 

 

Madrid which followed the Mercantilism Philosophy wanted her colonies to only buy Spanish Mainland Merchandise however Manila offered cheaper and higher quality mass produced China and India made goods like Silk, Porcelain, Spices, Tea (Chah) and Furniture and the fraction of the cost compared to Europe. So Mexico, Manila and Lima had a clandestine commercial alliance against Madrid. The Galleons were actually 3x larger than what is recorded in official records and carried trade goods and passengers (Mostly smugglers) 10x that officially reported in the ledgers. Goveror Generals turned a blind eye the illegal trade because they were bribed lol.

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European products were so expensive and that  made it easy for them to purchase products from elsewhere.  The silver pesos were being shipped to countries in Asia/Pacific instead and in return they received the higher quality products at a lower cost.

 

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Yes. However they abused the Filipinos, thats why many jumped ship and settled in Guerrero Province which was staunchly independist in the Mexican Revolution against Spain.

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It happened a lot considering Galleon trade lasted from 1565 to 1815. I'm sure Filipinos adapted quickly in Guerrero Province since Mexican and Filipino culture were similar.

Galleon Trade brought Mexicans and Peruvians to Philippines and vice versa the ships brought Filipinos to Mexico.  

 

 

 

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Yes agreed.

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Main difference is that Filipinos in Mexico are predominantly interbreeding with one another and therefore several of them today are pure Filipinos or almost pure Filipinos.  On the other hand, the Mexicans and Peruvians in Philippines are interbreeding predominantly with the local Filipinos and therefore their Hispanic and Native American Indian gene has been diluted throughout the centuries.

 

 

 

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Guerrero Mexico wasnt the only place Filipinos were active Saint Malo, Louisiana witnessed Filipinos siding with the Americans against the British Empire in the Battle of New Orleans commanding them under Jean Lafayette.

 

Filipinos from San Blas also assisted Hypolite Bouchard in the Argentinian war of independence against Spain.

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It seems as if Filipinos were in several places in the Americas and they immediately established small communities such as Saint Malo and Barrataria Bay in Louisiana.  Wherever Galleons sailed there were Filipinos onboard usually and several of them never went back to Philippines.  There were several incidences like this during those times and a lot of it went unrecorded.

Thanks man for the info.

 

 

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Guamanians such as Chamorros were also sailing on Galleons and they too migrated to Philippines and Mexico. I'm sure some of them also settled in Guerrero and Colima in Mexico as well as other places in Americas but their history for the most part is either unrecorded or hasn't been revealed to the public. Several Filipinos were sent to Micronesia during those times. 

 

 

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True. Ask our forum member Nenabuena some of her ancestors were mestizos from the Pacific Spanish Micronesia.

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She'll have a lot to say whenever she comes back. 

 

 

 

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What do you think she'll say?

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She'll probably say she has Micronesian ancestry and her ancestors were on Galleons traveling across the Pacific Ocean.  She may have some souvenirs pass down to her during those times.

 

 

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Do you remember what island she said her Spanish Mestizo grandfather was from?

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I actually do not recall her telling me which island her Spanish Mestizo grandfather was from?  She might have some fascinating tales to tell us that were told to her.

 

 

 

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Let's just ask her when she returns.

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notification bell should definitely alert her to return and reply to us.

 

 

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Along with labor the Chamorro Guamanians historically were excellent seafarers and I'm sure Spaniards did benefit immensely from them throughout the sea voyage.

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