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The U.S will no longer stay neutral on the South China Sea. The U.S will officially take action against China in the near future. I'm assuming after Trump gets elected. 

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The U.S will no longer stay neutral on the South China Sea. The U.S will officially take action against China in the near future. I'm assuming after Trump gets elected. 

The end game of China is have everyone as tributary states of China once they push out the United States out. China is doing everything to replace the U.S.A. 

China have a mentality of 15 century, it means that China need to reclaim what it was lost from being weak. 

I will write a blog about this so i can explain it to everyone clearly. 

 

 

 

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dude it's you thinking about 15th century. when have you seen Chinese talk about returning to 15th century? Tributary was the most appropriate international relations in 15th century. The alternative was Columbus he didn't need tribute he just took everyone to be slaves. Spanish didn't need tributaries they just built churches and replaced the local population. If you're in the 15th century, you'd rather be a Chinese tributary, you don't offend me, I don't invade you, it's like the UN, man. 

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Europeans were pagans before the jews spread Christianity. Western Europe and the middle east became Christianize until Islam was born. 

the Muslims have control southern Europe for hundreds of years until the Europeans had Christian crusades and push out the Muslims back. 

This is one of the factors that lead Spain and western Europe to spread Christianity by the sword. When they reach the new world. the indigenous people were making human sacrifices to their Gods. Ancient age rituals. 

 

Christians have a mission to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. And to Gather the lost children of God under his name. 

Since the Chinese are outside of the Abrahamic sphere ( Judaism, Christianity, Islam). I do not expect you to understand it easily. 

 

Let's just say in short, IF Latin America were untouched, they would still be following the ways of their ancestors. 

 

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you bought into  the European propaganda. If what you portray is true, you would have stayed as European colonies instead of seeking independence. You can learn from outside civilization without being enslaved by them, like China and Japan did. 

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Name one former european colonies on the planet earth who resisted the church or the mosque. Do you see any sentiments within the Filipino community to get rid of Christianity and go back to the ancient ''animist roots''

Filipinos don't feel enslave by the church, What the european colonist did in south east asia was control  the resources, govern the people and set up trade. They didn't enslave the locals into labor camps.

 


Japan, South korea did not developed by themselves. Japan copied the west. it was only after ww2 when Japan really became rich because it has access to the western market. without those access Japan & south korea will be a third world country. it's why Japan created the greater east-asia-copshere in ww2.

China will be worst than India if China did not trade with the western countries. 


Japan, Korea, China industrious mentality comes from the confucious upbringing. Our religion is basically Jewish. We Filipinos as well emulate how the Jews became so Industrial. 

 

 

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most countries can accept imported religions, Iranians accept Islam, China accepts Buddhism. But no one accepts colonialism. Filipinos were exploited by the Americans. Your spokesperson said the very same thing just a few days ago, he mentioned the US massacre in 1903. 

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Find me one Filipino who are anti-American. It's very clear that the Filipino prefer us over the Chinese any day. 

We did not exploit the the Filipinos, We just made them to our Satellite state. We even gave them independence. 

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you fabricated a war on Spain and invaded Phillippines for no reason. You took Guam from them too. 

What Filipinos think about all this is their own business. A lot of them get high paying jobs immigrating the US why would they be anti good jobs? It's clear if you had your own way that would not be in the future for Filipinos. 

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Christians were massacred by the Romans. Christianity was pushed out in Japan, Vietnam. The Japanese saw Christianity as a threat to their feudal system because they see Christians showing loyalty to someone else. 

Most civilizations actually reject Christianity. 

Christianity and Buddhism are totally different. Buddhism believes in reincarnation & nirvana which is not a threat to the ruler of the civilization

In other words. Christianity is a threat to most civilizations with kings & emperors. example: the laws of God are higher than the laws of emperors. 

 

 

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yes China is weary about Catholic church. only a Chinese version of Catholicism is legal in China. it recognizes the pope but not his appointment authority. 

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Most of Christianity in China is usually protestants like in south Korea from what I heard. 

100 million underground Christians in China. 

 

 

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there are different groups of people in the PHilippines. most of the People that the Americans killed during the American colonial times were mostly people from the isolated islands showed in this map. 

in short: those are not my ancestors. 

 

 

During the Philippine-American War, on September 28, 1901, Eugenio Daza, Area Commander of Southeastern Samar and Valeriano Abanador, the Balangiga's police chief, launched an attack on U.S. Army Company C 9th Infantry Regiment who were occupying Balangiga. With Philippine Revolutionary Army forces and Balangiga villagers, killing 48 and wounding 22 of the 78 men of the unit, with only four escaping unhurt and four missing in action. The villagers captured about 100 rifles and 25,000 rounds of ammunition. An estimated 20 to 25 of them died in the fighting, with a similar number of wounded.[5]

 IF you ever see an anti-American Filipinos. they will be usually from the South near the Muslims like duterte or east samar
 

 

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The Americans already returned the bells and made peace a long time ago to the people in that region. 

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what's the difference between you and the southern Filipinos? you have spanish ancestry? Is that most of Manila?

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my ancestral roots are from the north. or the green/red that you see on this map.

The majority of Filipinos are red/green on the map.

I don't have a Spanish ancestry. 

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Look at this video and compare the people in the video to the member's profile picture of this website. 

this is surigaonon language, the location where the Americans killed the rebels. 

^ these are one of the Filipinos killed. That is not my ancestors. 

 

 

 

 

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AM I wrong about the ''tributary states''. Yes or NO. be honest.

1)China wants to be a regional hegemon and has tributary states surrounding China

2) China wants to push the United States out. 

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If you're going to say YEs, then by the only comment is that we are living in 2020. 

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Many countries around China like Mongolia, Nepal, North Korea, Vietnam, have no support from the west, they should have been made into Chinese slaves according to your mentality. Are they?

China wants more *UN* and less *West*. Of course it doesn't accept provocations against Chinese territory and Chinese history. In the long run it will get rid of US military in Asia, their purpose there is just anti-China. 

China is a socialist country. It treats weak countries fairly, that's why it has so many partners.

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Chinese values and history is the complete opposite of American values. 

The last time the United States was isolated from world affairs, WW1 & ww2 happen. without the US. China and Japan will probably have a never ending war to this day. Russia would have probably taken parts of China. 

The Anti China is not just the United States but basically almost all the countries surrounding China. 

 

 

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@rambo Your senseless attitude and exaggeration is the real problem here. Everyone contributed to some peace at some point in the past, the problem is the US today. Look at any Chinese vs US embassy around the world. Which one is built like a fortress? That tells you who is the problem. 

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The Russian did most of the fighting against Nazi Germany. Even today if you meet any germans, they will freely admit that the U.S involvement in ww2 was the deciding factor plus the Russian winter. 

China had a stalemate with Japan, and China was a swing state in the cold war against the Russians. 

My point is this. The U.S isn't stationed in North-East Asia as conquerers or colonizers. It's stationed in East Asia as victors WW2 which the U.S did not start.  

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they use those troops for foreign policy, to interfere with other country's relations. they create threats to justify their presence, it's all very dirty.

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After usa drop the atomic bomb on Japan. Russia invaded korea it's why we have north and south korea. 

American troops job is to prevent north korea from invading south korea. Japan was occupied so the USA can turn a former enemy to a friend. 

 

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that's what they say for public consumption.

their goal is to maintain dominance, by splitting other countries.

north and south korea do not want to fight, but the US makes it for hard for south korea to go for a unification strategy. they take down left wing south koreans, such as Roh and Moon, and inject juice into the right wing by the presence of their military. 

their real goal is to keep down other races, so the world is comfortable for most whites. Asians have cooperated with them, because they have been much more advanced. As for China, it has no problem with US being advanced and rich, but it cannot tolerate US sabotaging its peaceful policies and its relations. 

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The US does not want Korea to reunite under North Korean terms. It wants Korea to reunite under S.korean terms in a democratic way. 

North Korea has a cult leader who wants to be treated as God generals. NO thanks, even south Korea knows that North Korea has an Evil government system. 

Us is not trying to keep other races down. just look at JAPAN, S.KOREA, Singapore, Guam, Samoan islands, American virgin islands, Hawaii, Puerto Rico.  they have developed under trading with the USA and benefitted from US protection. 

ASEAN Southeast Asia will be developed by 2050. 

 

 

 

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one thing they're good at is claiming credit wherever possible, or even not possible, they will claim credit.

to China their "protection" feels like extortion. trade is just normal behavior of people, they use it like a baseball bat to achieve other goals than trade.  nobody developed in isolation, no European country, no north American country had to face the kind of restrictions US imposes on others. 

U.S. businesses may have positive sides, Washington D.C. is purely hegemon and racist. 

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keep the world peace, keeping the oceans and trade routes secured. without these two there is no prosperity.

what extortion are you talking about? 

pushing human rights. elling S.korea and Japan to sanctions Iran for building nukes? 

Extortion is give me your money or I will blow your heads off. 

 

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if you talk to any Japanese they can tell you about how the US suppressed their aircraft industry and chip industry in the 80's. they were the bogeyman even when they didn't claim military independence only wanted economic competition with the US. 

the US military brought over 100 new corona cases to Japan just recently, they're exempt from Japanese quarantine control and the US doesn't test the personnel they transfer to the far-east. Same as in South Korea they come out of their bases and don't wear masks like everybody else.  

There's WTO and UN for trade the navigation rules. Everybody agrees on them and on enforcement. US helped set it up but it doesn't own those institutions much less own the idea of how to organize free trade.

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I live here. most of the cars here are Japanese and most of the electronics are Japanese & Korean. 

I'm sure Japanese & Korea are very happy to have access to the American market. I'm sure Japan is not bitter about the '80s

The U.S just wants fair trade with other countries. 


I don't have enough information about Us military bringing 100 coronaviruses in japan. I haven't seen any reports from the Japanese side to confirm this. 

 

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US is threatening to pull out of the WTO

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you can search in japantimes

There are many Japanese and Korean cars all over the world. Korea's largest export market is China not the US. 

The idea that people owe the US for selling to it is pretty questionable. There's some historical validity when everyone was really poor, but I think it's mostly brain washing. American businesses can be a good teacher, but the politics they make out of it, it's just manipulation. 

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The word for its sphere of influence. I don't see S.korea or Japan telling the USA to leave. 

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they're not free to tell the US to leave. Japan is legally not able to evict the US, South Korea is still threatened because the constant demonizing, stoking of North Korea. If any of them turned against the US, the tactics you see on china will fall on them too, that's what's called extortion. 

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This is part of Japan's unconditional surrender. there are only 40,000 soldiers in Japan. 

Japan is kicking American bases out of Okinawa. 

THe Philippines leader duterte curse out the Americans and threaten to side with China & Russia. The Philippines kicked out the American bases. 

where was the backlash? extortion by the USA.

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maybe they know Duterte isn't completely serious? looks like they're getting their way again with bases. they have a good pulse on how far Philippines can go. 

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the only time the U.S will treat the Philippines like North Korea if the Philippines actually acts like north Korea. 

that means siding with enemies of American, threatening everyone with nukes, killing its own citizens, and all that devil stuff. 

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None of what you said about North Korea is true in any relevant sense. 

That's what I mean by extortion. 

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If this was 19 century. The Chinese boats would not be able to pass the Malacca strait without their permission because the British and dutch controlled that area. 

Look at the Chinese right now, you guys are trading freely in Africa and Latin America. you could not do that in the 19 century when western Europe had the power. 

 

 

 

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freedom of navigation was declared in the Atlantic Charter in 1941, then affirmed by UN in 1945. Wilson and Roosevelt played their role to make 20th century better than 19th century, after two world wars. 

Americans benefited plenty from this arrangement. They also benefited plenty from their innovations. You can't keep saying: hey look how fair I made the world, now bow to me forever. They created and they benefited. They should stop mind controlling others.

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I meant to say early 19 century before ww2 but thanks. you're saying it for what it really is. 

I'm Filipino and will freely say it was best for the Philippines to be made an American commonwealth in the early 19 century. my people really never had good options. Filipinos cannot even go to Vietnam to buy rice without talking to the french. 

American innovation comes from less government control of everyday lives, especially private business. If you are a White supremacist or a nordicists, you will say nordics have superior I.Q. LOL

I'm kidding about the last part. 

 

 

 

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I made that joke about nordicists because it's European in origin. S.KORea, Japan and Singapore have imitated American capitalism with their own confucious influence work ethic and look at what it bought to them. 

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everybody imitates what works. Europeans imitate from each other too, singling out Asians is another American racism. 

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White supremacy ideology comes from the NAZI Germans & people who follow Darwinism theory ( survival of the fittest race)

You have White supremacists in America but they are very little despite the fact that you seem a lot these days in the news. 

In America, We are equal in the eyes of our creator. If you wondering why Chinese are excluded because Chinese culture doesn't understand Judeo-Christian values. 

 

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I don't think you represent America dude. Trump is the least Christian man alive but he's supported by white people, because he's Germanic and white. 

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He's a democrat his entire life, turned independent then turned to the republican party ( which are mostly conservative evangelical Christians). 

His grandfather is a pimp that owns brothels ( prostitution) for miners. He's a sexist pimp, God knows what dirt he has done in the past before he became a politician.

 Everyone knows his the least Christian. People voted him because he gets things done, he has leadership quality, charismatic and the most important is that he campaign on what people were demanding. He is an excellent self-marketing.  Latinos & blacks voted for trump too. 

PS: White Americans ( liberals) also voted for a black president Barack Obama. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Republican party is not a white supremacists party. KKK and white supremacists were former democrat voting bases in the past as well. 

but Yes most White supremacists & white nationalists leans towards the Republican party today. 

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Dito sa South China Sea magsimula ang WW3. Ang giyerang eto, covid & bubonic plague, pagtaas ng temperatura ng daigdig, pagkamatay ng mha tanim, gutom, pagkasira ng karagatan, pagbagsak ng ekonomiya, at pagtaas ng krimen ay siyang maging dahilan sa pagkamatay ng 7 bilyon ka tao sa mundo. Di pa kasalu dito ang mga sakina at natural na trahedya kahaya ng pag baha, land slide, lindol, eruption ng mga bulkan

 

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What are they trying to do? They want to trigger a fight where the loser is not US or China. 

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The US has defense pact all over Asia. Japan, S.korea. Australia, New Zealand, Philippines. 

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It's about damn time, my guess is around 2022.

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Are the Filipinos willing to reopen the former US bases? 

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Most of the Filipino do, but it won't happen until dutertes term is over. 

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The US currently has access to 5 bases in the Philippines. it's only rotational and not permanent like in the '90s. 

If you mean permanent bases like Subic bay, then the answer is NO. 

Me personality, I would like permanent bases. 

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Their wartime plan is based from Guam. Their frontline troops in Okinawa will be evacuated...

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I'm American BTW. I know what's my government planning to do.

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Why did the Filipinos kicked us out in the 90's? 

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The government of the Philippines did not want to renew the base leased because of nationalistic reasons. They were very naive of thinking that the Philippines will have a good diplomatic relationship with China. The very first thing China did when the US military base left. China took a territory just like what China is going in India right now. 

Plus there was a volcanic eruption exploded near the base. 

 

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Why is Duterte kissing up to the Chinese?  and Why does he hate America so much? 

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Duterte thinks that American leadership is weak, He thinks that If American seen body bags just like in Vietnam war. America will pull out of the Indo Pacific and the middle east region.  

Duterte is from the South, where the former European colonizers and Americans the harassing the Muslims in the south. 

If you understand Asian culture, Asian culture is good at backstabbing people. 

Keep your friends close and keep your enemies even closer. 

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IF there was actually war, the US army & allied army can station int he Philippines. it's part of the agreement of the defense pact. 

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Depends on who you ask. Filipino leaders want independence, while majority of the people dont mind. 

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There are leftist and liberals in the Philippines who are pro-communist and anti-American 

Before the U.S can return to Subic bay, there's going to be a scuffle with the left and right. 

Duterte isn't a fan of U.S military coming back. the best case scenario is wait for the next administrator to adopt a policy. 

 

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How powerful is the left wing in the Philippines? why is the liberals against us Americans??

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the left wing is weak compared to the United States., thanks to Diuterte. 80% approval rate for Duterte should say a lot about the voters.  

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I know nothing about Philippine politics but thanks for keeping me update

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