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Should Eastern Indonesia(Wallacea) even been considered Southeast Asia?

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glandesman92
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This is Tupallo and I'm back.I also have gotten my Ancestry DNA results as well as my moms,and in April 2019 I actually visited Indonesia as well-Jakarta,Makassar City,and AMBON 🤙🏿.

 

I will soon post me and my mothers Ancestry results as well as my associated Youtube video,but lets just say my Wallacean Oceanian position as well as that of many other Moluccans was RIGHT all along!

 

Ps. In Ambon itself and even Makassar,all Moluccans know of their Melanesian roots and ties.They even learn this in Primary and Middle School.😍

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Rene B. Sarabia Jr
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@glandesman92

 

Yes, I did some research I while back and it turns out there were even Spanish colonies in Makassara and the Moluccas, if you read my latest article...

 

https://www.amazians.com/truth-sorties-manifest-destiny-is-really-an-eastbound-reality-with-latinos-in-asia-and-vice-versa/

 

There was a case of a Mexican-Tidorese (Tidor is Mollucan) mestizo who came to the Philippines before he was deported to Mexico because of the Inquisition. Mollucans are among the most racially diverse Indonesians/Southeast Asians.

 

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Tupallo
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@selurong Yes,because Eastern Indonesia has retained much more Indigineous Australoid blood by far than anywhere else in Southeast Asia.Some parts of the Southern Phillipines are closest to us and may have a similar situation ethnically,such as the Manobo and Mamanwa.

 

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Tupallo
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This plus the Spice Trade added Arab,Indian,Chinese and later European admixtures already added on to the diverse Austronesian/Papuan mix of Maluku created the immense racial diversity of Moluccans.Many Moluccans and Timorese have even had their Southeast Asian-ness in doubt not just because of our Christianity,but yes our very Phenotypes.This also added to the fact that Rice is not grown natively nor part of our Indigineous diets.The most grown crops in Maluku/Timor is Corn,Sago,Cassava,and Sweet Potatos.We have to import our rice because our weather and topography is literally antagonistic to growing it ourselves.

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Tupallo
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Also,to yall and other outsiders,Timorese and Moluccans are nearly indistinguishable,but to us Moluccans we often can differentiate us.In Eastern Indonesia itself the Indigineous have our own diversity.Timor Leste and Nusa Tengarra in general is less phenotypically diverse than the Moluccas,because they have alot less outside influences and historical trade admixtures.In that way,Nusa Tengarra can be seen as the "purer" cousin of the Moluccans.They are more uniformally Brown.

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donnie
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I see no reason why not

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@donnie

it's acceptable for us Filipinos but for the rest, they might react differently. 

The Vietnamese & Singaporeans do not like being around non-orientals. They will tell you that in front of your face that they don't like darker and black races.

to me personally, Singapore doesn't belong in ASEAN if we are talking about racial groupings. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Komodo Commander
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@rambo

NO they are just

 

jealous of the big D

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Germinator
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@marneil

 

lol

 

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ASIANS 4 BLACK LIVES MATTER 黑人的命也是命 avatar
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ASEAN has like 10 nations. You will need more than the Philippines to vote Wallacea into ASEAN. 

 

 

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Tupallo
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@naval

Indonesia also voted to bring in Timor Leste...but other than them and the Phils many others especially the Krathong-err I mean Indochinese peoples voted AGAINST letting Timor Leste in...

 

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 you mean Vietnam Laos and Myanmar

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