Human Biology Black Americans have Filipino genes!

Dyno-Mite · 2021-08-27T23:42:36Z

AMERINDIAN SIDEBAR: SouthEast Asian in Afro-Diasporans in the Americas Published ByKing Genomeon 23andMe online community forum, May 6, 2014 at 6:30 PM I want to explore the unknown Southeast Asian (SEA)vs. East Asian/Central Siberian showing up particularly at 23andme.com in African-Diasporans, notably those with Native American roots due to the colonization of the “New World.” This unusuality seems to be most prevalent on 23andme.com’s autosomal test but can be expressed as such on other personal genome services. My inquiry is inspired by the latest relative to test at 23andme.com from my family branch with confirmed Native American (NA) ancestry (mt-haplo B2) in part from Northeast USA; this relative scores 3.9% SEA but there is NO Native American or East Asian components. In comparison, my relative’s aunt from this line shows 6% SEA + 1.6% NA + 0.1% East Asian-Yakut, and her son registers 2.1% SEA + 1.7% NA. Another cousin with roots in Colonial Virginia has 2% SEA +0.1% NA. For control, my sister and I match the 8% NA cousin on the X-chromosome. My sister and I share a SEA segment, and I share a NA segment with my first cousin -- we all share B2 grandparents. I’m almost certain some of our SEA is of a North Amerindian nature because of the mt-haplogroup B2 and the fact that my relative’s aunt has East Asian-Yakut nestled between a SEA and NA segment. According to 23andme.com’s autosomal test, which looks at ancestry from at least 500 years ago, the "Southeast Asian" cluster description reads: “Located at the South of China, Southeastern Asia extends from Burma to Indonesia. Modern humans arrived in Southeastern Asia as early as 50,000 years ago, using a migration route along the coast of India. Today, SEA is comprised of many ethnic groups. Here are the reference populations for this cluster: Phillippines; Vietnam; Cambodian; Indonesia; Thailand; Cambodia; Laos; Burma, and Malaysia. Yet most experts unanimously agree it is difficult determine the nature of this SEA because of lack of Native Americans samples. In fact, Lucas Martin of DNA Tribes says, “Native American ancestry from tribes not sampled in our SNP database (such as northeastern U.S. and eastern Canadian tribes) can be expressed in region and population components from other parts of the Americas and in some cases Asia,” including Karitiana Brazil, Miao China, Hazara Pakistan, Thailand, Daur China, Mongol Mongolia and Cambodian. Interestingly all of us who also took the DNA Tribes SNP analysis show some Cambodian and Thailand affinities in addition to Native American. For the same reasoning experts are equally hesitant to call this Southeast Asian a Malagasy heritage; some African-Diasporans in the Americas could be descended from Malagasy slaves brought to the New World. Mr. Lucas offers, “Based on available STR data, the population of Madagascar is genetically related to: (1) Southern Africans (including Mozambiquans and Bantu speaking South Africans); (2) Horn of African populations; (3) Malay Archipelago populations; and (4) Polynesians. Based on available SNP data, Oceanian and Southeast Asian ancestral components are expressed for Polynesian populations. However, Oceanian percentages (expressed without Southeast Asian percentages) might reflect other ancestry (such as Native American ancestry from tribes not yet sampled in our SNP database).” A DNA Tribes study of genetic evidence of multiple waves of migrations to the Americas says SEA is in fact highest in such NA populations as Colombia (2.4%), Karitiana (2.1%), but also Surui Brazil (0.4%) and Pima Mexico (0.3%). “These small components might express traces of ancestral links with Asia for the Paleo-Indian, Paleo-Eskimo, and/or Proto-Inuit (Thule) migrations to the Americas, according to the report. To this extent, we can reason Afro-Diasporans in the Americas with heritage from Meso-, Central- & South-Amerindian populations might have inherited SEA markers from those population sources. Further, the referenced the report supports the notion of SEA and Oceania components in North Amerindian tribes, which I believe is the source of my referenced indigenous ancestry, more specifically Lenni Lenapi, an Algonquin speaking people, in re: “Asia-Pacific Island components are also identified for some North American populations. These include Malay Archipelago and Polynesian components, both related to maritime cultures of the Pacific Ocean. These populations include Coast Salish of British Columbia (11.6% Polynesian and 8.1% Malay Archipelago), Dogrib of Northwest Canada (11.9% Malay Archipelago), and Inupiat of Alaska (9.0% Polynesian). Similar Pacific Ocean components are also found in Koryak (11.6% Malay Archipelago) and Chukchi (9.9% Malay Archipelago) populations of Far Eastern Siberia. Asia-Pacific Island components are concentrated near Beringia and Northwest North America and not found in other studied populations. This suggests these components might have accompanied ma...

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Bacano G

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Must have come from the Native Americans

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Black Americans aren't just from west african but also descendants of Malagasy slaves. Malagasy have a very strong Austronesian heritage.

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Interesting

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this is something new

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Most black Americans were raised to think that they have Native American genes. But in reality they have Austronesian genes even before they landed in Us soil.

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I would like to see more evidence @dyno

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some of the Aframs have ancestry from Madagascar

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check this out

Evidence of Filipino Genetic Lineages in Somalia – Anthropology and Population Genetics – Forum (amazians.com)

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Blackpinos are spreading online.

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I better invite Karanja here so he can teach us African history. check out the African Map, some of the cities sound very Austronesian

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Invite him

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