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Human Biology Foreigners Lecturing and Gate Keeping Filipinos' Ancestries

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 ABBM
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@selurong what a cutie 💓 

 
Posted : 10/02/2022 12:45 am
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Rene B. Sarabia Jr
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@selurong what we need to do is start gathering scientific evidence to prove our point. 

Here's what I managed to gather.

 

National Geographic collated an average of the ancestries of "each" Filipino and this is what the average Filipino's ancestry is...

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2% Native American, 36% East Asian, 53% Southeast Asian and Oceanian, 5% European, and 3% Southern Asian.

 

SOURCE: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20190522144837/https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/

 

 

There's also this massive genetic study sampling thousands of Filipinos, concluding that the average Filipino has "moderate" amounts of European ancestry.

Any time the study mentioned Filipinos, it mentioned European ancestry:

"...A genetic continental ancestry was assigned to an individual if her/his estimate for that ancestry was at least 5%..."

“...we also observed a modest amount of European genetic ancestry in individuals self-identified as Filipinos...”

"...In addition, we noted that for self-reported Filipinos, a substantial proportion have modest levels of European genetic ancestry reflecting older admixture..."

"Of particular interest is the continuous nature of a modest amount of European genetic ancestry in self-identified Filipinos, consistent with older European admixture..."

 

SOURCE:

https://www.genetics.org/content/200/4/1285

 

There's also a physical classification by Anthropologist Matthew Go, using samples from the University of the Philippines and this is what he came up with...

 

"A research paper, which claims to be a useful aid to biological anthropology, published in the Journal of Forensic Anthropology, collating contemporary Anthropological cranial data showed that the percentage of Filipino bodies who were sampled from the University of the Philippines, that were curated to be representative of Filipinos, that is phenotypically classified as Asian (EastSouth and Southeast Asian) is 72.7%, Hispanic (Spanish-Amerindian Mestizo, Latin American, or Spanish-Malay Mestizo) is at 12.7%, Indigenous American (Native American) at 7.3%, African at 4.5%, and European at 2.7%."

SOURCE:

https://www.academia.edu/38744342

Locations of Spanish Cities and Forts in the Philippines, which were sentried by Latin Americans and Spaniards.

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If you want you can pour through the Census Records the Spanish Kept.

 

Here's the German Anthropologist Fedor Jagor concluding that 1/3rd of Luzon Island had Spanish/Latin American Admixture.

 

“Your first question, with respect to the Spanish population, must refer to native Spaniards only; as their numerous descendants, through all the variety of half-castes, would include one third at least of the whole population of Luconia (i.e., Luzon–A. C.)

“Of native Spaniards, accordingly, settled in the Philippine Islands, the total number may be stated at 2,000 not military. The military, including all descriptions, men and officers, are about 2,500, out of which number the native regiments are officered These last, in 1796-7, were almost entirely composed of South Americans and were reckoned at 5,000 men, making a military force of about 7,500.

“The castes bearing a mixture of the Spanish blood are in Luconia alone at least 200,000. The Sangleys, or Chinese descendants, are upwards of 20,000, and Indians, who call themselves the original Tagalas, about 340,000, making a total population in that island of about 600,000 souls. What may be the respective numbers in the other Philippine Islands I never had any opportunity of learning.”

 

SOURCE:

http://www.authorama.com/former-philippines-b-8.html

 

In the urban areas of the Philippines: Manila, Iloilo, Cebu, Zamboanga and etc. It was recorded that the Pure Bred Spanish was 3% and Pure Bred Chinese at 9%, this doesn't count the mixed raced once who due to assimilation were often reclassified into pure Filipinos.

In the 1860s to 1890s, in the urban areas of the Philippines, especially at Manila, according to burial statistics, as much as 3.3% of the population were pure European Spaniards and the pure Chinese were as high as 9.9% of the people. The Spanish-Filipino and Chinese-Filipino Mestizo populations also fluctuated. Eventually, everybody belonging to these non-native categories diminished because they were assimilated into and chose to self-identify as pure Filipinos.

(Use your Google Account to Log in to JSTOR online Library and see the article)

SOURCE:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/29792149?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3A56d722250ac078d3c1f6aaa195ee9479&seq=3#page_scan_tab_contents

 

This is for the late 1800s, the early 1600s when Spanish Philippines was founded also show that 3% of the population were Latin Americans or Spaniards and 6% were Chinese...

 

The first census in the Philippines was founded in 1591, based on tributes collected. The tributes count the total founding population of Spanish-Philippines as 667,612 people,[16][17][18] of which: 20,000 were Chinese migrant traders,[19] at different times: around 15,600 individuals were Latino soldier-colonists who were cumulatively sent from Peru and Mexico and they were shipped to the Philippines annually,[20][21] 3,000 were Japanese residents,[22] and 600 were pure Spaniards from Europe,[23] there was also a large but unknown number of Indian Filipinos, the rest of the population were Malays and Negritos. Thus, with merely 667,612 people, during this era, the Philippines was among the most sparsely populated lands in Asia. In contrast, Japan during that era (the 1500s) already had a population of 8 Million or Mexico had a population of 4 million, which was huge compared to the Philippine's mere 600,000. In 1600, the method of population counting was revamped by the Spanish officials, who then based the counting of the population through church records.

SOURCE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Philippines

I have more but its' in Paywalled Books.

 
Posted : 10/02/2022 1:03 am
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@rr 

 

It's only true for Filipino Southeast Asians, other Southeast Asians don't have that Native American admixture except maybe the Peruvian descended Chavacano speakers in Semporna; Eastern Sabah, Malaysia.

 

Chavacanos, speakers of a Spanish Creole in Zamboanga and etc. Are partly descended from Peruvians.

 

"SECOND BOOK OF THE SECOND PART OF THE CONQUESTS OF THE FILIPINAS ISLANDS, AND CHRONICLE OF THE RELIGIOUS OF OUR FATHER, ST. AUGUSTINE" (Zamboanga City History) "He (Governor Don Sebastían Hurtado de Corcuera) brought a great reënforcements of soldiers, many of them from Perú, as he made his voyage to Acapulco from that kingdom."

http://www.zamboanga.com/html/history_1634_moro_attacks.htm

 

Here's a map of the amount of Chavacano Zamboangeno descendants and that blue part in Eastern Malaysia, Eastern Sabah, is Semporna.

 

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Posted : 10/02/2022 1:15 am
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@selurong 

From Science magazine:

If you walked the cobblestone streets and bustling markets of 16th and 17th century Mexico City, you would see people born all over the world: Spanish settlers on their way to mass at the cathedral built atop Aztec ruins. Indigenous people from around the Americas, including soldiers who had joined the Spanish cause. Africans, both enslaved and free, some of whom had been among the first conquistadors. Asians, who traveled to Mexico on Spanish galleons, some by choice and some in bondage. All these populations met and mingled for the first time in colonial Latin America.

(...)

Juan Esteban Rodríguez, a graduate student in population genetics at the National Laboratory of Genomics for Biodiversity (LANGEBIO) (...) searched a database of 500 Mexican genomes—initially assembled for biomedical studies—and sought genetic variants more common in Asian populations. (...) Rodríguez discovered that about one-third of the people sampled in Guerrero, the Pacific coastal state that lies nearly 2000 kilometers south of the U.S. border, also had up to 10% Asian ancestry, significantly more than most Mexicans. And when he compared their genomes to those of people in Asia today, he found that they were most closely related to populations from the Philippines and Indonesia.

 
Posted : 11/02/2022 1:06 am
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Butthurt & jealously of our unique austronesian variation. 

🤬#Fight Chinese Oppression #Viet Lives Matter 🤠 #Stop Chinese absorption of Vietnam. #Free Uyghurs #Free Austronesians in Taiwan. #free the Tibetans.

 
Posted : 11/02/2022 1:48 pm
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