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SE asian group averages. Thais and burmese seem to be the most caucasoid shifted while filipinos and vietnamese the least.

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@thambi thanks I copied this from you

cambodians get abour 2.6% while Vizayan gets 2.8% surprisingly. but again its only one sample for the vizayan. do they have different mixture compared to regular luzon folks usually?

Target: Vizayan:GS000019970
Distance: 2.4166% / 0.02416644
85.2 TWN_Hanben
5.4 VUT_2300BP_all
3.8 AASI
2.8 LAO_LN_BA
1.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA
1.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Cambodian (actually one of the cambodian samples is chinese shifted with no west eurasian so that could be pulling down the average. the other samples got 4-5%)
Distance: 1.4996% / 0.01499620
59.0 LAO_LN_BA
23.6 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
11.6 TWN_Hanben
3.2 AASI
1.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA

Igorots are completely 100% austronesian

Target: Igorot
Distance: 3.1485% / 0.03148490
100.0 TWN_Hanben

 

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hell even thais are more west eurasian than filipinos.

Target: Thai
Distance: 1.5087% / 0.01508676
42.0 LAO_LN_BA
28.0 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
16.2 TWN_Hanben
6.4 AASI
6.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
1.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Burmese
Distance: 1.8510% / 0.01851048
46.2 CHN_Upper_Yellow_River_LN
31.4 LAO_LN_BA
10.2 AASI
6.6 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
4.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA
1.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Luzon
Distance: 1.6824% / 0.01682379
96.0 TWN_Hanben
3.6 AASI
0.4 LAO_LN_BA

 

 
Posted : 25/11/2020 7:01 pm
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You forgot to add the Malays but they also have higher Caucasoid than Pinos:

Distance: 1.5533% / 0.01553266
Target: Malay
43.3 MYS_LN
41.5 TWN_Hanben
5.6 AASI_1
4.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA
2.8 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
1.7 LAO_LN_BA
1.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Even the two Cambodian individuals I posted above are around 4-6% Caucasoid which is higher than the Filipinos

Distance: 1.7371% / 0.01737063
Target: Cambodian:HGDP00711
38.2 LAO_LN_BA
34.2 MYS_LN
8.8 TWN_Hanben
6.5 Dai
5.0 AASI_1
3.6 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
3.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA

Distance: 2.0994% / 0.02099438
Target: Cambodian:HGDP00713
43.7 LAO_LN_BA
22.1 Dai
17.4 MYS_LN
4.4 AASI_3
4.4 TWN_Hanben
3.2 TKM_Gonur1_BA
2.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.1 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA

Heck look at these two most Caucasoid-shifted Thai individuals who around 11 to almost 13% West Eurasian. Filipinos would died to have this amount of Caucasoid from their Spanish admixture lmao.

Distance: 1.7085% / 0.01708475
Target: ThaiCH002
33.5 MYS_LN
20.1 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
19.3 Dai
8.7 AASI_3
6.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.9 TKM_Gonur1_BA
5.9 TWN_Hanben

Distance: 1.9705% / 0.01970503
Target: ThaiCH006
37.2 MYS_LN
25.4 Dai
10.5 CHN_Yellow_River_LBIA
8.9 LAO_LN_BA
6.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.1 AASI_3
4.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
1.2 AASI_2

 
Posted : 25/11/2020 7:02 pm
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Here are a few Thai kits who have more than 14% South Indian.

1. Not exactly sure where the user is from but seems to be from somewhere in Southern Thailand. Almost 17% S Indian, 5.83% Baloch, 1.5% SW Asian, 0.94% NE Euro, 0.41% Caucasian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 50.6
2 NE-Asian 17.74
3 S-Indian 16.64
4 Baloch 5.83
5 Siberian 1.83
6 Papuan 1.8
7 SW-Asian 1.5
8 Beringian 1.43
9 American 1.11
10 NE-Euro 0.94
11 Caucasian 0.41
12 E-African 0.14
13 W-African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 12.12
2 khmer-cambodian (xing) 13.16
3 cambodian (hgdp) 22.01
4 lahu (hgdp) 23.5
5 kinh (1000genomes) 23.96
6 singapore-malay (sgvp) 24.38
7 khasi (chaubey) 25
8 vietnamese (xing) 25.4
9 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 26.46
10 dai (hgdp) 26.97
11 burmanese (chaubey) 32.09
12 garo (chaubey) 35.28
13 iban (xing) 40.5
14 samoan (xing) 42.08
15 great-andamanese (reich) 44.56
16 onge (reich) 45.31
17 tongan (xing) 45.69
18 miao (hgdp) 45.73
19 singapore-chinese (sgvp) 47.63
20 bonda (chaubey) 49.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.4% nepalese-c (xing) @ 2.53
2 83.1% thai (xing) + 16.9% nepalese-b (xing) @ 3.59
3 69.8% dai (hgdp) + 30.2% tharu (reich) @ 3.8
4 82.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 4.24
5 82.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17.2% burusho (hgdp) @ 4.27
6 82.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 4.32
7 82.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17.1% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 4.35
8 83.5% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 4.39
9 83.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.8% punjabi (harappa) @ 4.41
10 70.4% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 29.6% nepalese-b (xing) @ 4.44
11 83% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17% kashmiri (harappa) @ 4.49
12 70.2% dai (hgdp) + 29.8% satnami (reich) @ 4.49
13 83.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 4.52
14 83.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 4.53
15 72.3% dai (hgdp) + 27.7% bhil (reich) @ 4.54
16 82.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 17.1% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 4.54
17 83.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 4.54
18 83.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.9% bihari-muslim (harappa) @ 4.56
19 82.6% thai (xing) + 17.4% nepalese-c (xing) @ 4.57
20 83.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 16.1% gujarati (harappa) @ 4.59

2. Not sure where in Thailand she is originally from She seems to be adopted and lives in Australia though. Around 19% S Indian, 6.5% Baloch, 1.25% Caucasian, 0.77% NE Euro and 0.22% SW Asian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 49.51
2 S-Indian 19.26
3 NE-Asian 17.14
4 Baloch 6.5
5 Siberian 2.89
6 Papuan 1.34
7 Caucasian 1.25
8 NE-Euro 0.77
9 E-African 0.49
10 W-African 0.43
11 SW-Asian 0.22
12 San 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 13.31
2 khmer-cambodian (xing) 14.9
3 khasi (chaubey) 23.04
4 cambodian (hgdp) 23.42
5 lahu (hgdp) 25.48
6 singapore-malay (sgvp) 25.73
7 kinh (1000genomes) 26.26
8 vietnamese (xing) 27.6
9 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 28.86
10 dai (hgdp) 29.37
11 burmanese (chaubey) 31.77
12 garo (chaubey) 34.84
13 iban (xing) 41.87
14 great-andamanese (reich) 42.33
15 onge (reich) 43.12
16 samoan (xing) 43.66
17 bonda (chaubey) 46.5
18 juang (chaubey) 46.53
19 miao (hgdp) 46.84
20 tongan (xing) 47.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 22% nepalese-c (xing) @ 2.74
2 67% dai (hgdp) + 33% tharu (reich) @ 3.34
3 78.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 21.4% bengali (harappa) @ 3.45
4 80.1% thai (xing) + 19.9% nepalese-c (xing) @ 3.46
5 81% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19% rajasthani (harappa) @ 3.57
6 80.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.8% bihari-muslim (harappa) @ 3.61
7 81.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.9% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 3.62
8 81.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.6% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 3.63
9 80.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.1% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 3.66
10 80.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.1% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 3.68
11 81.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.9% gujarati (harappa) @ 3.71
12 64% thai (xing) + 36% khasi (chaubey) @ 3.72
13 80.7% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.3% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.75
14 80.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.4% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 3.76
15 81.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.8% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 3.78
16 81.3% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.7% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.78
17 80.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.2% up (harappa) @ 3.79
18 81.3% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.7% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.79
19 81.6% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.4% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 3.79
20 81.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 18.9% meghawal (reich) @ 3.81

2. This kit is from Hat Yai, Songkhla Province in Southern Thailand. This is probably one of the most Western-shifted Thai results I saw on Gedmatch. 20% S Indian, 9% Baloch, 1.5% NE Euro.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 49.92
2 S-Indian 20.21
3 NE-Asian 14.81
4 Baloch 9.12
5 NE-Euro 1.53
6 Siberian 1.47
7 Papuan 1.24
8 E-African 0.92
9 American 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 13.77
2 khmer-cambodian (xing) 16.13
3 cambodian (hgdp) 23.57
4 khasi (chaubey) 24.14
5 singapore-malay (sgvp) 25.6
6 lahu (hgdp) 28.23
7 kinh (1000genomes) 28.53
8 vietnamese (xing) 30.08
9 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 30.61
10 dai (hgdp) 30.94
11 burmanese (chaubey) 34.21
12 garo (chaubey) 37.35
13 iban (xing) 41.5
14 great-andamanese (reich) 42.03
15 onge (reich) 42.92
16 samoan (xing) 43.53
17 bonda (chaubey) 45.57
18 juang (chaubey) 45.62
19 tongan (xing) 47.07
20 miao (hgdp) 49.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.6% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 2.12
2 80.3% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.7% gujarati-a (hapmap) @ 2.17
3 79.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.9% gujarati (harappa) @ 2.17
4 80.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.8% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 2.2
5 79.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 2.3
6 80.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.6% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.31
7 79.3% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.7% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.38
8 79.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.8% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 2.43
9 79.3% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.7% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.45
10 79.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.8% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 2.45
11 79.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.9% meghawal (reich) @ 2.45
12 79.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.9% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.46
13 79% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 21% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 2.51
14 79.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.8% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 2.56
15 78.7% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 21.3% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.58
16 78.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 21.1% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 2.58
17 79.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.9% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.65
18 79.7% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.3% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 2.73
19 78.9% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 21.1% vaish (reich) @ 2.76
20 79.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 20.6% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.84

 
Posted : 25/11/2020 7:03 pm
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@rambo @prau123 @selurong @kay @sailorneptune @nenabunena @rodriguez

Hey you copied from the thread in Apricity lol. 🤣 

Anyways, yep Burmese and Thai have the most West Eurasian/Caucasoid followed by Malays, Cambodians and a lot of Western Indonesians. 

Its pretty ironic yeah but Filos are the one least Caucasoid admixed groups in SE Asia despite the legends and myths of Spanish ancestors that a lot Filipinos heard from their parents. The only group that have lower Caucasoid admixture than Pinoys are Laotians, Vietnamese, some isolated tribal groups in Mainland and Maritime SE Asia, and Eastern Indos/Timorese. 

Most Filipinos seem to have on average around 1-5% Caucasoid admixture (of Euro blood) based on the DNA results that I have seen while other SE Asians can have up to 8-10% or more Caucasoid easily.  Filipinos who have more than 5% Euro blood seems to be a minority and those who are 10% Euro or more seems to be even rarer.

And the reason most SE Asians have higher West Eurasian ancestry is due to 10-25% South Asian admixture something Philos seem to have only around 3-7% on average. This is because South Asians are a mix between Ancient Ancestral South Indians/AASI which is an Australoid-like population and Caucasoids who are Iranian Neolithic Farmers from modern day South Central Asia and the Steppe Indo Europeans. Iranian Farmers are genetically closest to modern day Baloch/Brahui/Makrani who are an Iranian and Dravidian speaking ethnic groups from Western Pakistan, Southern Iran and Afghanistan while Steppe peoples are genetically closest to modern day NE Europeans like Baltics and some Slavs etc.

I have seen some results of Burmese who can have up to almost 20% Caucasoid, Thais who have can easily up to 15-16% West Eurasian (mainly of Iranian Neolithic Farmer+ Steppe Indo European) Indonesians  and Malays who can have around 13-17% Caucasoid admixture (Iranian Farmer+ Steppe Indo European). Most Cambodians also seem to have higher Caucasoid admixture than Pinoys.

Nevertheless, I have seen some results of Philos who seem to have actual South Asian admixture but its still pretty minor compared to most SE Asians which I will post later.

I would suspected that the Moros would have higher South Asian ancestry than most Pinoys due to their closer proximity to Indonesia and Malaysia but their dna results are very rare to find.

 
Posted : 27/11/2020 2:13 pm
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Yes, I copied it from you because it was informative and scientific. thanks for your expertise. 

 
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