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1/3rd of Filipinos have Spanish Ancestry (According to official historical censuses)

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Rene B. Sarabia Jr
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Yes, I've heard the same thing. 

Also aren't Chavocano speakers? My boy's gf is Chavocano and she looks mixed but says she isn't. 

Lol IDK. What I do know is that Zamboanga was among the first provinces to revolt against Spain (Search up Republic of Zamboanga) yet their language is totally Spanish based "Chavacano".

However, linguists studies of Chavacano reveal that it has more cognates in common with Mexican Spanish than International Spanish and Aztec terms like Tiangge and etc. Have circulation in Chavacano but aren't found in international Spanish. 

It's funny how the most Hispanized province in the Philippines was one among the first to declare independence from Spain. Perhaps those Mexican and Peruvian mercenaries thought it better to have an independent Zamboanga which they would rule rather than what Spain would rule.

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But unlike Indonesia where the Indo Dutch immigrated in waves leaving their country, in the Philippines, the mestizos were part of the Filipino revolution, many were nationalistic about being native from the Philippines & not as many left the country but stayed behind. They stayed behind because they believed that they would have more freedom here. Also many Mestizos adopted the American lifestyle as much/little as every other Filipino, there wasn't much of a divide in culture perse due to mestizo vs native, but rather the divide between classes is due more to education, money, looks, charms, intelligence, & social class.

Suffice to say, it wasn't only the mestizos who joined the revolution but Filipinos actually. (The strict use of the term as Pure Spaniard ancestry but born in the Philippines)

Andres Novales for example (leader of the Cavite mutiny) was a pure-blooded Criollo Spaniard who's bum was born from Guerrero province Mexico but was appointed military officer at Cavite.

Lolz, a pure Spaniard by blood leading a revolt against Spain.

Same case as Zamboanga, the most Hispanized, Spanish-creole speaking area in the whole Philippines, lead the charge to declare independence against Spain as per the establishment of the Republic of Zamboanga.

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Yeah it probably depends where you sample. 

I find the Y and mtDNA evidence is pretty telling though. There is research done sampling hundreds of Filipinos with no Y-DNA typical of Spain or Mexico.

EDIT: Also weren't most of the Spanish migrants men?

We'll if you sampled the entirety of the Philippines with an equal number of samples taken per province, then the exact result would be as what has transpired, the vast majority of Filipinos would have minuscule or zero European ancestry and I think that's what they have done in analyzing the Filipino genome. 

However, the population of some provinces Cebu and Manila for example are just so large that there is dissonance between our personal experiences and the official country-wide genetic analysis. 

That explains why so little Mexican and Spanish Y-DNA was measured in the studies. 

X = Those with no Euro admixture
O = those with Euro admixture

[xxx(o)ooooo] [xxxx(x)ooooo] [ox(x)x] [ox(x)] [xxx(x)] [(x)]

The per province sampling of the methodology done by geneticists makes it look like there is only 1 among 5 individuals which have euro genes when the exact number should be about 1 among 3.

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It sometimes bothers me that people think all the European ancestry in the country is because a Spanish priest raped a Filipina. Though I'm sure this happened, this is a highly exaggerated & distorted view based solely on Rizal's works. Not all European introgression happened due to rape. In my family, a Filipino man married a Spanish Filipino, it wasn't how it was in Noli at all, lol!

You're probably principalia or descended from principalia because if you trace your European from your motherside rather than your father. It means that your fatherside had political clout to merit a marriage from a European woman.

It was the case with the Dula dynasty; the ancestors of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

Wherein Conquistador de Goiti offered up his own daughter to the former crown prince of Tondo.

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Martín de Goiti (1534–1574) was a Spanish Basque conquistador and founder of the city of Manila in the Philippines. Martín de Goiti was one of the soldiers who accompanied the Spanish colonization of the East Indies and the Pacific, in 1565. From his main base in Mexico City, he was the leader of the expedition to Manila, ordered by Miguel López de Legazpi in 1569. There, he fought a number of battles against the Muslim, Tariq Suleiman (سليمان), the Hindu, Rajah Matanda (ऋअज ंअतन्द), and the Taoist, Lakan Dula (王 杜拉) of the kingdoms in Luzon; for control of the lands and its settlements. He is also known for his statesmanship by betrothing one of his half-caste (Half Aztec and Half Spanish) daughters to Batang Dula, the eldest son and successor apparent of Lakan Dula of Tondo "東都" (Dongdu), the paramount ruler of Manila. Eventually their descendants unified the 3 royal houses of Tariq Suleiman, Rajah Matanda and Lakan Dula with the half-Aztec and half Spanish de Goiti family. The Dula y Goiti family eventually married with the Mendoza family who are Sephardic Hebrews that were practicing Catholics. Afterwards, the Dula y Goiti surname was shortened to Dulay. However, during the Spanish era, some descendants changed their surnames even further in order to avoid persecution and among which; the Salonga and Macapagal families are known descendants of these royal houses albeit only through a different family name.

Source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_de_Goiti

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Moar ordinary Filipinos with Hispanic ancestry








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