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Which country does Takeshima/Dokdo belongs to? Japan or Korea?

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I want to hear from your perspectives on the island dispute. Some people say its Japan, but some others say its Korea. Tell me if there is any evidence and back up to prove which country holds this island for good.

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Posted by: @charliesafehouse

I want to hear from your perspectives on the island dispute. Some people say its Japan, but some others say its Korea. Tell me if there is any evidence and back up to prove which country holds this island for good.

when it comes to politics. 

you have already claim that its a Japanese territory when you use a Japanese name for the islands. 

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@josh

I added Dokdo as well, so it is indecisive on which one is right.

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Dokdo is a pair of islets that cannot sustain human life. It cannot generate an Exclusive Economic Zone. Objectively, Dokdo is within the Korean EEZ. This EEZ is generated by a nearby Korean island, Uelluengdo, which is an inhabited island that is capable of sustaining human life. Dokdo generates a small maritime territorial area that extends a little into Japanese EEZ. Dokdo will continue to be part of Korea, and Japan might as well accept that, which will immensely improve relations between the two countries.

 

That being said, the current state of affairs is a bit complicated. This stems from the controversial decision of the Kim DJ administration in including Dokdo as part of a shared economic zone with Japan, in return for getting a large shared economic zone within Japanese EEZ that is a rich fishery. So, in essence, this is sort of an economic trade mutually agreed by both sides, but politicians in both Korea and Japan hide this fact and abuse the situation to prop up political support based on nationalism.

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@saltech

 

are koreans and japanese going to fight?

 

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If you mean military conflict, the probability is very low.

 

If there is any, it'll probably be between the coastguard of the two countries, not military vessels.

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@saltech

Nonsense. You cannot gobble up islands with EEZ's, then say the island will generate territorial sea. It's ridiculous. 

Takeshima is basically Japanese island, but south korean marines took it when Japan was under occupation and couldn't respond. They think it's reparation for being occupied by Japan for half a century. 

Normally you might have some sympathy for Korea, but the behavior of their extreme nationalists just makes that not possible.

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Dokdo is an uninhabitable pair of islets that is well within the Korean EEZ, which is generated by the nearby inhabitable island, Ulleungdo. And territorial waters of Dokdo only protrudes into the Japanese EEZ by a few kilometers, making it quite irrelevant. The problem is that both Korea and Japan claim Dokdo as an inhabitable island that generates EEZ. Territorial waters is of very little relevance. EEZ is about 425 km, while territorial waters is about 22 km.

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@saltech

EEZ has nothing to do with island ownership. It became a concept only in the 1980's under UNCLOS, it's for resources in the sea. You cannot use it to claim land. Yes it's an inhabitable island, and Japanese were on it first. 

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