the iberian caste system
this was a joke BTW. I got this online
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Jan 01, 2021 3:24 pm
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Jan 09, 2021 7:06 pm
@j-r-c
The chart is referring to the few Iberians bastards left behind in the Philippines. I don't mean to sound offensive.
Jan 16, 2021 3:28 am
Jan 01, 2021 4:09 pm
categories were mainly base on the percentage of those Iberian population in the countries.
Argentina in recent decades has a larger Italian population compared to Iberian population.
Jan 02, 2021 7:01 pm
low tier has a higher Amerindians. Amerindians are looked down in the LATAM.
Jan 02, 2021 10:22 pm
And I really don't see why they have to look down at Amerindians that way. Amerindians contributed a lot to LATAM and the world.
Jan 03, 2021 8:44 pm
You don't know LATAM very well. Amerindians are becoming more and more extinct while the leaders are more white looking.
Jan 04, 2021 2:01 am
Are you sure about your statement? Actually it's quite the opposite of what's happening in Latin America. Amerindian population in LATAM has increased in the last decade. In 2010, they had a population of 42 million. In 2020, they had a population of 50 million. Amerindian population has grown and it will likely to continue to grow and therefore they are no where near becoming extinct.
The latest available census data shows that in 2010 there were about 42 million indigenous people in Latin America, making up nearly 8 percent of the total population.
approximately 50 million people
The indigenous population of Latin America consists of approximately 50 million people, who belong to 500 different ethnic groups. The largest populations (in absolute and relative terms) are in Mexico, Guatemala, Peru and Bolivia. In total, the indigenous population accounts for 8 percent of the region's population. May 14, 2020
Jan 09, 2021 6:55 pm
Guatemala, Peru, and Bolivia aren't the whole LATAM. Tainos in the Caribbean for example race mixed into extinction while the rest of Amerindians in LATAM mixed with Europeans and Africans.
Jan 09, 2021 10:27 pm
The article only mentioned Guatemala, Peru, Bolivia and also Mexico as having the largest population but it doesn't say that these are the only countries with Indigenous people and that they represent all of the Natives in LATAM. There are several that could be found throughout Central America and in tropical rainforest in Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Paraguay, Venezuela and plus more.
Jan 10, 2021 6:38 pm
Most of the largest mostly pure Amerindians are in Mexico, Peru, Guatemala, Bolivia, Ecuador. Mexico alone has more than half of the 50 mil Amerindians reported. The average Amerindian population in LATAM countries is no more than a few thousand to 1-2 million at the very most.
Jan 10, 2021 6:46 pm
It's like me saying there is 50 million Chinese in South East Asia but most of them are in Vietnam & Singapore.
Or there are 10 million pure blacks in South East Asia who are not going to be extinct but they mostly live in Papua New Guinea.
Jan 11, 2021 2:58 am
Around 17 million pure indigenous people are located in Mexico which is only 1/3 of the total indigenous population estimated today to be at 50 million found throughout Latin America.
Mexico population today is 127.58 million and its bigger than the population in Peru, Bolivia, Guatemala and Ecuador combine with only 79 million total and it's clear that the country Mexico would have the largest population of Indigenous people in comparison.
Papua New Guinea is actually considered Oceania and the population is nearly 9 million.
Jan 13, 2021 12:23 am
I was just using Papua New Guinea to prove a point about Haiti and Dominicans.
My point is the Amerindian population in LATAM is not as high as people make it up to be. The truth is most of us don't really pay attention to Amerindians
There was one member here who has a fetish for us. I think he wants to forge a connection with us by making my ancestors look like Chinese.
Jan 13, 2021 9:15 pm
stats on indigenous people are probably higher than that and Chollos and some Mestizos should be leaning in the Native Indian population.
Jan 11, 2021 2:27 am
those stats only refer to pure indigenous Amerindians. If you consider Chollos who have 75% or more Native Indians genes, then the population of people with predominantly Native Indian genes exponentially increases. These people are predominantly Native Indian and they phenotypically appear Native Indian and most view themselves as primarily a Native Indian also. Several people in the Latin countries actually fall in this category. Even some Mestizos that have 51% - 74% Native Indian genes would consider themselves as predominantly as a Native Indian and several of them do appear to look more like a Native Indian. The population of the pure Indigenous people are 50 million and rising but if you include Chollos and some Mestizos then the numbers are somewhere between 100 million to 200 million or possibly higher. The population of the Latin American countries as of today was estimated at 652 million which doesn't include the Latino and Native Indian population in U.S.A. and Canada.
Jan 13, 2021 12:37 am
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Jan 16, 2021 9:39 pm
Jan 16, 2021 9:47 pm
why do you want Mexico to be Amerindian so bad? Central America is more Amerindian than Mexico.
Jan 17, 2021 5:43 pm
Mexico Indigenous population is 27.5 million however the countries total population is 129 million. The Indigenous population percentage amounts to 22%.
Central America Indigenous population is 9.6 million and the countries combine population is around 51 million total. The Indigenous population percentage amounts to 18%.
Mexico has more compared to Central America in terms of total population and percentage.
21.5%
21.5% (27.5 million) of Mexico's population describes themselves as indigenous people.
Jan 22, 2021 11:51 pm
Mexico Indigenous population is 27.5 million however the countries total population is 129 million. The Indigenous population percentage amounts to 22%.
Central America Indigenous population is 9.6 million and the countries combine population is around 51 million total. The Indigenous population percentage amounts to 18%.
Mexico has more compared to Central America in terms of total population and percentage.
21.5%21.5% (27.5 million) of Mexico's population describes themselves as indigenous people.
he Amerindian populations as of 2002 Census include the K'iche' 9.1%, Q'eqchi 8.4%, Kaqchikel 7.9%, Mam 6.3% and 8.6% of the population is "other Mayan", 0.4% is indigenous non-Mayan, making the indigenous community in Guatemala about 40.3% of the population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalans
Most Belizeans are of multiracial descent. About 52.9% of the population is of mixed Indigenous (mostly Maya) and European descent (Mestizo), 24.9% are Kriols, about 10.6% are Maya, and about 6.1% are Afro-Amerindian (Garifuna).[1
Jan 22, 2021 11:52 pm
Jan 24, 2021 9:04 pm
the numbers are misleading because those that identity as Amerindians including Mexican nationalists have a very euro mixed appearance.
Jan 16, 2021 10:01 pm
You don't get the Mexicans. Mexicans want to be White & look down on Dominicans for having partial African DNA. Mexicans don't even want central Americans coming to their country. They want to breed out the pure Amerindians DNA
Just look at their presidents
Jan 17, 2021 7:53 pm
There are a few Mexicans that had Indigenous Ancestry. Vincente Guerrero had mixed ancestry. He had Spanish, Indigenous Indian, African ancestry.
Jan 21, 2021 11:23 pm
Papi, multiracial does not count lol, did you get my point?
You won't find this in Mexican leadership.
Jan 22, 2021 1:18 am
Why doesn't multiracial count? They are not viewed as white or in the same classification with them during those times.
Vicente Guerrero does not appear Spanish on several pics.
Btw, I mentioned there were a few more also. There are pure native indigenous before such as Benito Juarez.
Jan 22, 2021 11:41 pm
Jan 23, 2021 10:42 pm
They both appear actually pure indigenous to me.
George Lopez appears phenotypically Native Indian but he does grow facial hair which he probably receive from his Spanish side since Native American Indian descents are supposedly unable to grow a substantial amount of beard and mustache.
George Lopez shown here with substantial amount of facial hair implies that he has European admixtures.
Benito Juarez
I've yet to find a picture of him having facial hair which is typical of people of Native American Indian descents.
Jan 24, 2021 9:00 pm
Lopez doesn't look pure but You totally missed my point regarding the Amerindians in LATAM. The Tasmanian in Australia & New Zealand were bred out of existence. it's similar in LATAM. Countries in Southern American imported lots of Europeans to whiten up the population and to breed out the Amerindians. The Blacks were only used for slave work & were never a threat because of the population.
Jan 25, 2021 9:08 pm
George Lopez appears pure if it were not for his facial hair on some pics. His facial features and skin tone are typical of Native American Indians found in Southwest and Mesoamerica.
Aboriginal Tasmanian people on Tasmanian Island interbred with Europeans but only a few actually look like the original Tasmanian people. Aboriginal Tasmanian people never inhabited New Zealand. The aboriginal people of New Zealand are Maori people, Polynesians.
Jan 24, 2021 9:07 pm
Jan 25, 2021 9:31 pm
Benito Juarez appears pure Native Indigenous Indian to me. Both his parents are Zapotec Indians which makes him pure Mesoamerican Indian. The only one that does look triracial is Vicente Guerrero.
These pictures are not his every day appearance. These are his actual professional pics. In order to assimilate into society norms, some people had to look and dress up similar to a European and therefore people such as Benito Juarez would be more accepted during those times.
Jan 02, 2021 6:59 pm
Spain is very hated in LATAM, I don't know why Filipinos want to connect with them.
Jan 02, 2021 9:52 pm
why is the Philippines even in the picture?
Jan 09, 2021 7:00 pm
Jan 02, 2021 10:39 pm
Haiti, Guatemala and few more are missing.
Jan 03, 2021 8:45 pm
Jan 04, 2021 1:39 am
Jan 09, 2021 6:43 pm
Never put Haitians and Dominicans under the same category. Since your a Pinoy, I'll explain to you the political environment in Hispaniola.
Haitians are trying to invade the D.R with massive immigration. We are trying to get them out. This is a sensitive issue, so I appreciate it If you don't lump us together.
Jan 09, 2021 10:13 pm
Haiti was actually not in the category and that's why I mentioned the country as missing which also implied that I never lumped Dominican and Haiti together. If it were to be included in the category, the country would most likely have been categorized as undesirables and therefore they would not be in the same category. Iberian population in the country is small compared to Dominican. The categorization were mainly base on the percentage of those Iberians in the countries.
Jan 10, 2021 6:20 pm
The chart isn't about who is more Iberian. The chart is about Spanish supremacy and the conquest of the natives. Even if we have European in us, we don't consider ourselves white but Latinos.
Jan 11, 2021 2:06 am
The categories is about the former colonies of both Spain and Portugal. The higher up the category, the more Iberian population and admixture and vice versa the lower down the category, the less Iberian population and admixture. The categorization is not indicating if they consider themselves as a Latino or Caucasian.
Jan 09, 2021 7:05 pm
The Spanish & French never race mixed with Haitians as they did with the Tainos. In LATAM we consider Haitians as Africans, not Latinos.
Jan 09, 2021 10:34 pm
only a few did mixed but that was awhile back ago and today several Haitians have negligible amount of European ancestry however it was still considered a Spanish and French territory for more than 300 years.
Jan 10, 2021 6:06 pm
You just don't get it, Papi, We don't want to be affiliated with them whatsoever. I can't fully explain to you because I don't want my profile to be linked with a very sensitive issue. If you are curious I'll explain to you in a private message.
Jan 11, 2021 1:49 am
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