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I think it's wonderful that Ironman extends his welcome to other SEA groups. I just want to use this opportunity to get our filipino members to be more familiar with the Vietnamese refugee experience.  Now, there are VNmese immigrants, more recent ones, maybe within the past 15 years or so who come from rich families, some aren't but most are communist connected. They are here like most asian immigrants: on student visa or work visa.

 

In contrast, the earlier waves were very different. These people either came after the fall of Saigon in 1975, boat people later in the 70's the-80's and some in the 90's. They were communist refugees, either come on boats or through family reunification program.  Our experience are very different from the rest of the asian immigrants. 

A small window into a refugee experience that came to my mind recently was Michelle Phan. Many of us see her success as a result of catering to frivolous online interests henceforth the person that do those things are also superficial and frivolous but a look into her background upholds the adage "don't judge a book by its cover". 

There are so many stories like this in our community that outsiders are completely unaware of. That is because you see us as we are now, successful, educated, and have all the  material strappings that the rest of the Asian immigrants. However unlike asian immigrants who come here by choice, for better economic opportunities, we came for freedom. 

YouTube Makeup Guru Michelle Phan on Becoming a Beauty Superstar: "My Only Goal Was to Help My Family" | Glamour

 

The intimate story of how a struggling waitress named Michelle Phan nabbed 4.5 million YouTube followers and a major makeup deal. As told to Geraldine Campbell.

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Phan, 26, with her new makeup line, Em. Sweater, Sandro; skirt, Rachel Zoe.

Seven years ago, in my first semester at college, the professors handed out MacBook Pros. With mine I filmed a seven-minute tutorial on "natural makeup"—just me, my laptop, and a cup of coffee. When, a week later, it clocked 40,000 Web views, I knew people were connecting with it, so I kept going. That moment changed my life.

At the time, I was keeping a personal blog in which I depicted myself as the girl I wanted to be, with money and a great family. But it was all a veneer. In reality my life was hard, and I was struggling with insecurities I'd had for years.

 

You wouldn't exactly call my childhood stable. When I was growing up, my father constantly gambled away our rent money. Every few months we'd get evicted and move. My brother and I never had the same beds for long, or even the same tree outside to swing on. Then one night after a big loss, my father just disappeared. It was more than 10 years before I saw him again.

My dad and I had been close—he called me Tuyet Bang, Vietnamese for avalanche, because of my nonstop energy. I took a lot from him, like being a risk taker, and I know how much he loved my mother. Their families were like the Montagues and the Capulets—he was from northern Vietnam, she was from the central countryside, yet they ran off together.
 

After he left, my mother was heartbroken. But she remarried, and our relationship with my stepdad was good... at first. They had a daughter, my little half-sister, Christine. But bit by bit he became very controlling of my mother. Eventually, the four of us moved out, and at age 17, I started working as a hostess to supplement my mom's income as a nail technician in a salon. We could barely pay rent, and we had no furniture; I slept on the floor, my clothes in a basket beside me. We couldn't afford dressers.

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Her family Michelle, center, with Christine, left, and mom Jennifer.

 

My disjointed upbringing took its toll. I never made friends at school; in Florida I was one of the few Asian kids, and I always got made fun of because I was different. To cope I holed up in my room, drawing superheroes and reading. In one sketch I created a magical version of myself that had the superpower to save my family from our situation.

Art was my escape, so when I was accepted at Ringling College of Art and Design in Florida, I prayed we'd find the $12,000 for tuition. My aunts and uncles had pooled together money to buy us furniture, but my mom used it to pay for my first semester instead. I promised her I would find a way to take care of the family. I just never imagined it would be through YouTube.

The makeup tutorials were a fun hobby at first. I'd play different characters or try new emotions—a bold lip or dark brows to look strong, or sweet pink hues for church. And I was resourceful I stocked up on lipsticks and liners from drugstore 75-cent sale bins.

As my YouTube following grew, I was soon earning as much from advertising revenue as from waiting tables, so I quit my job. My boss thought I was crazy, which just made me more determined. In 2012, four years and 200 videos later, my channel was so successful that Google offered me $1 million to create 20 hours of content. It was an incredible opportunity Out of all the online beauty experts, they had picked me, the person who filmed in her bedroom!

But my real Cinderella moment came when L'Oréal gave me my own makeup line to launch this year. I was already making videos for Lancôme, another L'Oréal brand, so when they first called, I thought I was being fired. As soon as I registered what was really happening, I called my mom, who was giving someone a pedicure. "Today is the last day you're doing that," I said. "I don't want you to go to work tomorrow." As I told her about the project, we sobbed together uncontrollably.

 

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who is ironman and how many of the Vietnamese here are communist? 

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@Dyno that’s Josh. All active members that I know of here are from refugee families. There used to be a couple of commies in the old eastbound. Maybe still here only josh would know. 

not to say children from refugee families are immune from the indoctrination. A prime example is sailorneptune. 

 

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@athena You mean we have Vietcongs here operating in America?

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@dyno just like the CCP the VCP have their 50 cent army too.

 

this is Michelle phan before chin implant and no makeup. By Asian standards, country looking. She made the best with what she was given. You gotta give her credit for that.

 

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@athena Is plastic surgery normal in Vietnam as in South Korea?  Why would the VCP deploy a 50-cent army in the internet?

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@dyno no, but the kpop trend popularizes certain procedures like jaw shaving or maybe chin implant too, I don’t know.  Communists pride themselves in propaganda. I think unlike the CCP who wants to destroy the west, the VCP target the anti communist diaspora although thanks to woke indoctrination, their jobs are getting easier. Maybe don’t even get paid 50 cent any more.

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@athena Aight I got you. the VCP want to promote racial supremacy

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@dyno the Vietnamese refugees hate the commies so it’s the VCP job to destroy them. When they took over south Vietnam, did a lot of atrocities. You’ve heard about the killing fields in Cambodia. It was similar in VN but not as bad. 

Michelle phan story is very common among the refugees, people come from broken families because dad had to be left in the labor camp so mom and kids can get freedom, or the boat people get killed, raped by pirates, family members lost at sea. Even after they got here, the husband have problems adjusting, mental health issues are common. 

As I said, after nearly 50 years we have become successful so from an outsider perspective, just another Asian immigrants but they don’t know the background how we started out.

 first year in college, I got hounded by some white guy around my age to sell me a magazine subscription, when I finally turn him down, he got angry and told me I wouldn’t know what is like to work so hard, he bet I had a nice new car, lots of money from my rich parents. Another example, in grad school, a classmate who was a white guy, told me he had a rough life and I wouldn’t know it because I lived such a sheltered life. He knew nothing of my past, he assumed I just came from this rich Asian family, just study, play violin and never had to worry about money. I didn’t bother to correct him because I didn’t want to share too much. I didn’t ask him about his life either. 

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@athena Sounds like you guys need a movie but all jokes aside. Since Viets got their shit together here in America. Do the Vietnamese Americans have any agenda to fight back against the Vietcongs for round 2?

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@athena You mean we have Vietcongs here operating in America?

Communist stalks the Vietnamese refugees online so they can get their information. If they are identified, their families are punish back in Vietnam. it's the same for the Chinese living in America who criticize the CCP. 

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@zexsypmp23 I heard bout that shit. real fucked up shit.

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@Dyno that’s Josh. All active members that I know of here are from refugee families. There used to be a couple of commies in the old eastbound. Maybe still here only josh would know. 

not to say children from refugee families are immune from the indoctrination. A prime example is sailorneptune. 

 

can you explain to me why SailorNeptune is immune from the indoctrination? 

most of the commies are studying the Vietnamese aboard. They would not dare come here because I am in U.S Soil. I can easily tell who is a VCP. 

PS: I might have to bring back the PVT and PVT chat soon

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@zexsypmp23 she is not. She’s very indoctrinated.

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@dyno Me, Iron man was my former username

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nobody wants to destroy you. but you should be hospitalized instead of the sick calling other people sick. 

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@wei-nihao broken English, commie collie detected.

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@athena you sound as sick as Nancy Pelosi

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@wei-nihao did she put down your English skill?

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@athena she's crazy she thinks ghosts want to hurt her

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@wei-nihao she loves chines, can’t be all that bad.

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@athena you are chinese, you spend all your time explaining you're not what's obvious.

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@wei-nihao I think Athena is half white or she is married to a white person. Athena has white privilege so she gets away with whistleblower racism.

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@naval you are a filipino spy for the chinese. so sorry.

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