here have been a number of posts here on the Hong Kong protests. Even though this sub focuses on issues in the West, there are parallels that people see between what’s going on there and here mainly in terms of Asian-white dynamics.

HOWEVER, while many here are Chinese-American and many who are not like myself have questioned the nature of the protests, I want to make it clear that this sub takes no official position on the topic, and views that are more mixed or outright supportive of the protest are welcome here. There is no “right” answer on this.

The other day I had a conversation with a SE Asian acquaintance. I was explaining my POV on why I though the protests had been hijacked by Western forces. He listened but then explained Vietnam’s history with China which I was familiar with but he emphasized his sense of powerlessness vis-a-vis China. And that he saw the HK protestors as brave for standing up to China in a way that he felt the Vietnamese were never able to.

While I did empathize with him while still not believing this justified what these protests have become- I could understand how his perspective adds a worthwhile dimension to what largely has been seen as an “East v. West, white vs. Asian” dichotomy.

This sub encompasses all of Asia; differing views are welcome and no one should feel intimidated from raising them. I would also encourage those who are against the protest to resist downvoting dissenting views to oblivion. Of course, rebutting such arguments is perfectly justifiable.

An open exchange of ideas will benefit everyone. And hopefully we can do better than white Twitter where the debate devolves into charges of “brainwashed CCP chinazi” or “CIA operative”.

About the author: latte
Tell us something about yourself.

Facebook Comments

13
comments/forms

Please Login to comment

Connect with:




simple-ad

This is a demo advert, you can use simple text, HTML image or any Ad Service JavaScript code. If you're inserting HTML or JS code make sure editor is switched to "Text" mode.

avatar
  
smilegrinwinkmrgreenneutraltwistedarrowshockunamusedcooleviloopsrazzrollcryeeklolmadsadexclamationquestionideahmmbegwhewchucklesillyenvyshutmouth
Photo and Image Files
 
 
 
Audio and Video Files
 
 
 
Other File Types
 
 
 
12 Comment threads
1 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread
9 Comment authors
Doctor VAcademic1721greatbaizuoWhiteFragilityIsRealxwingdeliciousness Recent comment authors

  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
asianboy123456
Guest

I always find Canada’s support of Hong Kong protests laughable. The last time all this shit happened, so many Hong Kongers moved to Vancouver and Toronto.
Canadians hate the shit out of these Hong Kongers who “buy their houses”. They refer to them as “Chinese” despite supporting Hong Kong. I hope in 30 years, this new wave of Canadian Hong Kongers stemming from these protests will realize how fake the international support is.
They’ll support you…as long as you don’t come anywhere near them.

allinwonderornot
Guest

Southeast Asians’ hate for China/Chinese has a long history.
Indonesia has two fucking genocide against Chinese in the last 60 years (1965 mass killings and 1998 riot).
Malaysia kicked Singapore out for being “too Chinese.”
Thai Chinese were so scared of anyi-Chinese persecution many of them changed their surname to hide their Chinese heritage.
But somehow it’s all China’s fault.

chopsticko
Guest
chopsticko
Offline

Looking at the recent videos, it’s not ‘protest’ any more. It’s domestic terrorism. If they pull that kind of shit (burning shops, trashing subways, gov buildings, stations, taking over freeways, throwing bombs, using bats and wrenches, attack citizens, cab drivers, shutting down airports) here in the states, media would report these as terrorism, because their actions fit the definition perfectly. I am frankly surprised at the freaking restrain from police and authority. HK ppl have a lot more freedom from authority than in the US. Many of them would have been killed by police or even other citizens if they… Read more »

ray0923
Guest
ray0923
Offline

As an international students from mainland, i don’t really expect people here to all out pro-China. But if you are as woke as you think you are and you know that western propaganda is harmful to asian communities in general, I would expect that people here should be able to see through the propaganda and form their own point of views. If you still can’t accept what Chinese or Chinese government are doing after finishing your own research, I am fine with whatever opinions you have. But what i can’t accept is on one hand, you are decrying the harmful… Read more »

doiknowyou9
Guest

I do not agree with your post, in particular your second paragraph. On one hand, sure it’s great to see an Asian country rise above, but China also has imperialist influences. It uses its influences in a very similar manner as US imperialism and its rise can also signal tension in other Asian countries. Like the original post claims, it’s much more complex than white v Asian; Asian colonialism and imperialism towards other Asian countries is just as threatening as other forms of colonialism and imperialism. So it’s natural for other countries to feel just as threatened by China as… Read more »

RoyalBack4
Guest
RoyalBack4
Offline

IMO, I find it’s really disgusting is that every whites (not those in HK), because all their knowledge of it is watch western news, is to side the disgusting cockroaches. So, how do you educate a non-HK “democracy” supporter about the whole thing, they are so naive One liberal guy, I pinned him down on the floor because of his naive views (crying police brutality). As that result, I was banned from that social group (though I really couldn’t about being at anymore) There is this sexpat streamer, who only being there for a year. His full time job now… Read more »

kirinoke
Guest
kirinoke
Offline

My honest “impartial” opinion, China (CCP) has been using this event as a prop for nationalism sensation since average mainlander already has some bitter feeling about Hong Kong. Western (mostly US) media was using this as a distraction from current domestic political fiasco and almost certainly side with “peaceful protesters”. At the end of day, it is the average Hong Kong people have to suffer. Your view on this issue is exactly where you ass sit at. I have great sympathy to the average Hong Kong people, but this has no good ending for them. Meanwhile, the greatest hypocrisy on… Read more »

xwingdeliciousness
Guest

I’m Chinese-American and was born in the states. I have been called every racial slur in the book “Chink, gook, communist, wumao, 50 cent army, dog eater, slant,etc” even by other Asians, because I support the Hong Kong Police and rule of law. These rioters are violent, and this whole riot wasn’t even necessary but is being encouraged by white people(with ulterior motives) who are racist af against Chinese. These white people support burning down the whole city, but are AGAINST giving these rioters UK,Australian,American passports and citizenship. The irony is hilarious, and the motive becomes so obvious. Hong Kong… Read more »

WhiteFragilityIsReal
Guest

Good move on stickying this post. I haven’t posted to or even checked out this sub in awhile due to the excessive bashing of the HK protests in this sub. While I don’t particularly lean in one direction or the other due to how fucked the situation in itself is, it was getting increasingly uncomfortable seeing the number of posts just straight shitting on HK or the protestors. This sub has been a bastion for pan-Asian unity and to have so many of the recent posts being just downright insulting was turning me off to even checking out the new… Read more »

greatbaizuo
Guest

excessive bashing of the HK protests in this sub just straight shitting on HK I don’t particularly lean in one direction or the other but to go out of your way to insult other Asians That you even think of this as a “China vs. HK” thing shows that you have been tricked to some extent by white narrative-pushing. It’s a lot more complicated than that. The majority of HKers do not like the rioters, and even most of the protesters are alarmed and angry at the actions of those among them who are violent. On top of that you… Read more »

Academic1721
Guest

Yes, it was, GIVEN the motive of the Nazis https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/16691969 : The Nazis believed that Jews were a problem that needed to be removed. The mass killings of the Holocaust were what Hitler called “The Final Solution”. Here, we clearly see differing motives between the the Holocaust and the current situation about the camps in Xinjiang. The Nazis simply wanted to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth, simple as that. Meanwhile, the CCP, seeing the Urumpi riots of 2009, clearly saw that there was a significant proportion of the Uyghurs wanted Xinjiang to be independent, something that… Read more »

Doctor V
Member
Doctor V
Offline

 this is all over the news about the mainland government trying to invade Hong Kong

 as much as people support Hong Kong there’s not much you can do

You may also like

Minnesota Couple Finds ‘F***ing Ch*nks’ Note on Door After Returning Home

An Asian American couple living in Woodbury, Minnesota