some of these Latinas can pass us in my opinion, it must be the amazonian admixture
^ this Latinas have that indo-pacific look
some of these Latinas can pass us in my opinion, it must be the amazonian admixture
^ this Latinas have that indo-pacific look
Posted by: @rambosome of these Latinas can pass us in my opinion, it must be the amazonian admixture
^ this Latinas have that indo-pacific look
she's atypical, we would call her el china for women.
Posted by: @rambosome of these Latinas can pass us in my opinion, it must be the amazonian admixture
^ this Latinas have that indo-pacific look
Can you post pictures of Filipinos that looked similar to her?
@rodriguez
She has a Latina accent, if she was speaking Tagalog then yeah I guess she can pass. If I saw someone similar , I would think that they might have some sort a foreign ancestry. some filipinos have American Indigenous looks but they are minor I believe.
it's her cheekbones.
@rambo
I guess her phenotype is rather uncommon or rare in the Phils? Can people tell she is foreigner even if she doesn't oper her mouth. Pinoys that I met in real life don't look anything like her. They look much more Asian.
depends on which group you talking about but I see a lot of these features within the Mexicans
No, Native Americans have different tribes and so do other Latin American Indigenous tribes.
The indigenous of Latin America came from Asia, they do resemble the Filipinos but the races are very different.
The natives of Brazil resemble the Filipinos more.
@flowergirl
it's not a bad thing or an ugly feature. It's just different.
Depends on the Native American; Olmecs and Toltecs look similar to Filipinos since they're in the tropical lowland zone like us whereas the Sioux who live in temperate climes and the Incans who live in snowy mountains have sharper cheekbones and noses.
Those types are called Istmid which you can see a lot among Central American/Far Southern Mexican Natives today. It's called convergent evolution where groups with very little to zero genetic connection can evolve to look alike one another due to different factors including environment or climate, etc. Although tbh, I think Amazonians have more resemblance with Pinoys than even the Istmids.
I would say most still look pretty different like Pinoys though even those tropical ones. For example, these Mayans from Yucatan Mexico and lowland Guatemala or Totonacs from Southern Mexico still doesn't look Pinoy or won't pass imo despite living in the tropical lowland areas.
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I also think these types of Natives look pretty different from Pinoys and won't pass.
Second guy is around 80-90% Native phenotypically from Mexico.
The third guy is actually Moroccan but can easily pass as Native from Guatemala or Peru.
This guy also won't pass imo. He is very tall, lanky and pretty dark. Facial feature is also pretty unique.
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She is actually of Central Asian (likely Uzbek) descent but from Saudi Arabia. Many Latinos in another forum told me she can easily pass as an Andean Native.
These Tarahumaras also look very different and distinct from Pinoys/SE Asians despite the tanned skin and straight hair.
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I can tell Filipinos apart from Taino and other Amerindians very easily. There is no way I can confuse the two together.
I also think these ones won't pass/would easily be recognized as foreigners in the Phils. What do you think? @prau123
Lots of overlap in between Mexico and the Philippines.
I have met a few Filipinos that looked like Hispanics but the majority are purely Asian.
True, thate because the Philippines used to be under Mexico during the era of the Viceroyalty of New Spain.
Most of us don't think about Filipinos often but we do find it interesting.
Most Filipinos act White or act Black. I have never seen a Filipino that loves Reggaeton outside of Josh.
I think we should be trading more.
Those Pinoys often have European admixture in most cases though I believe.
Would you say only around 5% or less of those you met can resemble Hispanics?
I meet people qho resemble Hispanice alot about 10% of the time. Maybe because our houses are in Makati, Manila and Jaro, Iloilo places where there are alot of Mestizos. Other areas have less frequency.
Alright. Im sure those people have quite a good amount of European admixture if they get their DNA tested.
No matter how much Latin American or European admixture wehave we are still Asians in nationality and are predominantly Asian in ancestry.
I don't much about their genetics but the ones I met looked like a a Mexican mestizo.
as long they don't look too Asiatic then I can say they can pass. I haven't met too many Filipinos to make a general conclusion. The only ones that can as a Hispanic in this forum is Rambo and maybe Kay.
I see. Does Rambo and Kay look European admixed? Because I would assume that they can pass as Hispanic because of that (well maybe as you noted in the case of Kay).
I need to go to a Filipino parade then I will tell you. I have Filipino friends but not thousands of them.
If you were to go all technical about 15% of Filipinos might pass as Latino, according to this census.
Well genetic studies of Y-DNA say that 13% of Filipino men have Spanish Y-DNA.
R1b which is Spanish is 13.33% of the Philippines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipinos#Origins_and_genetic_studies
Nah even with that 13% Spanish Y-DNA in the Philippines, that doesn't mean that 15% of Filipinos can pass as Hispanic. Y-DNA doesn't determine what your phenotype would be. It's pass only through male lineage. So for example, let say a Spaniard who is R1b married in a Filipina, their son would be also R1b but only half Euro. Later when he married another local again, his kids would also be R1b. This can happened for generations, until the later descendants could look totally Asian but have R1b.
So no having 13% Spanish Y-DNA or more, doesn't means 15% of Pinoys can pass.
This Anthropology study in which The University of the Philippines curated the samples from and several American Universities Participated in, said that 12.7% of Filipinos pass as Hispanic (Latin American), 7.3% as Native American, African as 4.5% and 2.7% as Europeans.
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[Page 1] ABSTRACT: Filipinos represent a significant contemporary demographic group globally, yet they are underrepresented in the forensic anthropological literature. Given the complex population history of the Philippines, it is important to ensure that traditional methods for assessing the biological profile are appropriate when applied to these peoples. Here we analyze the classification trends of a modern Filipino sample (n = 110) when using the Fordisc 3.1 (FD3) software. We hypothesize that Filipinos represent an admixed population drawn largely from Asian and marginally from European parental gene pools, such that FD3 will classify these individuals morphometrically into reference samples that reflect a range of European admixture, in quantities from small to large. Our results show the greatest classification into Asian reference groups (72.7%), followed by Hispanic (12.7%), Indigenous American (7.3%), African (4.5%), and European (2.7%) groups included in FD3. This general pattern did not change between males and females.
Im guessing this study also includes a lot Hapa Pinoys who have a lot of Spanish in them aka the Mestizos? Because then how would you get the 12.7% figure for Latin Americans?
Don't you think its strange that they concluded that there are more who can pass as mixed race Latins than as Natives?
I don't know how reliable and trustworthy the research is but ok.
Spanish Colonization of the Philippines from the 1500s to the 1800s was mosly via Mexico when the Philippines was part of the Mexico City administered Viceroyalty of New Spain. Direct Spanish European colonization only happened from the years 1800 to 1898, the year of the Philippine war of independence against Spain.
So there are actually more Latin American admixtures than European.
4 Universities participated in the study. The University of the Philippines, the University of Miami, University of Florida (That published the study) and Standford University.
They used skeletons and corpses exhumed from public cemetaries across the Philippines, to identify the racial classifications of Filipinos.