It’s just kind of annoying to hear a bunch of Americans call China a Muslim-hating, imperialistic hellhole without realizing that America has also been pretty terrible to Muslims (nobody talks about Abu Gharib), and that America has been far more imperialistic, especially historically. China is pretty dystopic but America is too, especially when we see recent news about how a black witness at the Amber Guyger trial got murdered right after his testimony.

I’m not saying that America is worse (I find it difficult to rate oppression anyway), but I wish that some of my white peers would care as much about American dystopia (which they can more easily address, as voters) as they did Eastern dystopia. In America people will rage with rhetoric against “the Chinese” while simultaneously giving you side eye for supporting BLM.

I’m having these thoughts in the first place because my white peer told me that “the Chinese” are going to take over the world because they’ve invested money into 3rd world countries. She knows I’m Chinese. It’s like, America has already done the same thing 100 years ago yet China is somehow so much more evil.

Edit: Please reread my post if you think I’m defending China’s actions.

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It’s a losing battle, mate. As someone who’s lived on both sides of the Pacific, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the inevitable conflict between Chinese and Western cultures. Western media and public discourse LOVE to shit on China, because it generates outrage and clicks. It’s pretty much impossible to combat and fact check, for two reasons: 1) Most of the stories are at least rooted in some semblance of the truth, for example, YES there are camps in Xinjiang where Uyghurs are being sent against their will, and YES the organs of executed criminals were indeed used for transplants… Read more »

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People also don’t realize China is constructing the camps in response to terrorist attacks (there was a massive knife attack too). There are also reports of extremists that cross the border into Xinjiang. China most like just felt the “shame”/”atrocity” of making these camps outweigh the possibility/danger of the formation of their own ISIS in their own territory. ​ People also need to think about what has been going on for the last 70 years. If they’re teaching all this “Chinese” stuff now, what the fuck were they doing before? My theory is that China probably thought “oh shit, America… Read more »

limitedtotwentychars
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Just some meandering thoughts I’ve pulled together from years of readings and observations… As I write this, the three top posts in /r/worldnews are two posts about South Park in China and one post about blindfolded prisoners in Xinjiang. These are truly the most important issues of our times – Reddit hivemind curating your content at work. No, Reddit isn’t the news, but a same curation process happens behind the scenes in every news organization. I encourage you to think critically. By this, I don’t mean a myopic focus on accurate reporting of facts (although this too is important and… Read more »

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I think it’s dangerous to rationalize away a concerted effort to confront a potential humanitarian crises by just asking “what about the US?” I’m born and raised in China, I totally understand the outrage. I understand the political sensitivities there, and I have family friends who have been persecuted for being too religious or too influential. Of course, Chinese citizens/netizens aren’t the party, but the level of propaganda, combined with a deep rooted (super-)nationalist ideology drilled into our minds at a very early age, means that our entire communications ecosystem is just a giant propaganda bubble. My parents still talk… Read more »

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I’m totally on board with China getting criticized but at some point, Americans going on and on about China just kinda feels like a “China bad, America good” situation. For most of us here, we live in America and we have the right to vote in this country, but there’s not enough happening to make the necessary changes that this country needs. Americans are not actually as critical of America as like they to believe. Even groups like Asian Americans, I find the level of criticism towards America as a country is incredibly weak. This country shouldn’t even exist in… Read more »

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The CIA also toppled the democratically Iranian government, not even for oil, but as a favor to England; which led to the overthrow of the Shah and Ayatollah coming into power. The Iranians at the time even thought of the US as friends and fellow revolutionaries, who both tried to secede from English. rule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat There was also the Iran-Contra affair, where the CIA sold arms to our newly-made enemy Iran, to fund right-wing deathsquads in Nicaragua, who almost solely targeted civilians and the families of civilians suspected of being communist sympathizers, to “stop the spread of communism”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair Also… Read more »

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I think the issue here is that there’s often very little distinction with being “Anti-CCP” with being “Anti-Chinese” or “Anti-Asian.” We are often seen as some sort of foreign monolith, even if some of our families have been in this country longer than some families from Europe. One of the first racially-based murders after 9/11 was of a Sikh man. Different religion, different culture, different ethnicity, but he died because he wore a turban. Japanese Americans were put in concentration camps because they couldn’t be trusted to be American enough. I think that’s why I’m wary of the anti-China sentiment… Read more »

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People in this thread keeps say whataboutism or what not, but really what bothers me is that a pro-China opinon is not allowed in the US and West on anything. For all of the west’s domestic and international issues (BLM, France yellow vests, multiple wars of terror and associated civilian deaths, US border camps), regardless of what people supporter, we at least accept that there can be multiple perspectives on the cause and reasoning behind what government / non- government groups motivation for doing things. With China there isn’t, anyone who is anti government is automatically good, and anyone who… Read more »

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Never take anything the US media says about china on face value, it’s not a coincidence that yellow peril and anti china rheotoric has increased exponentially in the past few years. History repeats itself Edit: Daily reminder that multiple BLM protestors have been found murdered and that Joshua Brown was just murdered for testifyng against Amber Guyver (can’t wait for that investigation to coincidentally result in no leads). Reminder that in recent history the US has had AND CONTINUES to have the absolute worst record of imperialism and atrocities committed. Reminder that the dems and republicans have equally awful foreign… Read more »

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Yes, but people like the OP and I feel that a lot of times the anti Asian sentiment leads to an exaggeration or distortion of the facts in people’s critique of China. It’s a small difference between China is doing something bad vs China is doing some insane dictator evil shit and the anti Asian/racist sentiment is the extra push that is making these differences. People might think we are defending China or giving China an excuse but it is more about the racism that bleeds onto/affects us in the long run. Not to say some people don’t have a… Read more »

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I’m sick and tired of being expected by the AA community (especially the other one on this website) to defend China’s barbaric actions just because I’m Chinese. I cannot in good conscience defend China. That doesn’t make me any less Chinese than any of the people defending the CCP. HKers, Tibetans, and Uighurs are all also Asian, yet all I see is “poor oppressed China” posts. The abuses at Abu Gharib became public and the perpetrators were punished. Why is it that China only arrests the human rights defenders and not the abusers??? “America is just as bad” my ass.… Read more »

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Who are these people commenting? 

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 I don’t think they are real users it’s probably been copied and pasted from another website

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I can tell that those people that wrote that comments are Chinese

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