Philippine Luzon Jars used in Japanese ceremony – Page 2 – Japan 日本

Originally Posted by pochi

Wikipedia says the Luzon jars were precious in medieval Japan.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8C%B6%E5%A3%BA

I'm not sure any of those Luzon jars still exist in japan.

Japanese merchants went to the southeast asian countries for trading including Philippine. Those trading ended in 1630s when the Shogun (supreme samurai) banned all japanese from going abroad including those merchants as part of measures to block Christianity from spreading into Japan (because Europeans also came to SE asia for tradings and Christian missions).

Few Japanese went to SE asia since 1630s until the feudal era ended in 1868. I guess the Luzon jars hardly got imported since 1630s.

I mean Luzon jars are not used for current tea ceremony.

I think it fell out of use in modern times but it still remains as a collector's item. Hence why modern auctions of it is still expensive.

Originally Posted by MrC

^ That's WW2. I was talking about Pirate Ships in the 12th century.

Oh sorry. We'll there were many pirate ship wrecks in the 12th century but we don't know the ships' names so we just label the discovered wreck over what area they were found.

http://www.themua.org/collections/ar...742c9e89d2.pdf

Some famous shipwrecks include the Pandanan shipwreck which yielded much Ming porcelain.

And Persian glassware.

There are at least 20+ confirmed Prehispanic Shipwreck sites and many more are even unaccounted for.

Originally Posted by MrC

^Oh, if they were pirates then they are acting illegally anyway so they should be sunk.

Toyotomi Hideyoshi was the same guy that invaded Korea.

They were indeed sunk and the Philippine islands are strewn with tons of ship wreckages.

Including the Shipwreck of the flagship Musashi. One of only two Yamato Class Supercarriers ever constructed (The largest WW2 ships ever made)

It fell during the battle of Leyte Gulf.

The greatest naval battle in history; if measured by the absolute number of participating men and sheer tonnage of all ships.

The Battle of Leyte Gulf, also called the Battles for Leyte Gulf, and formerly known as the Second Battle of the Philippine Sea, is generally considered to be the largest naval battle of World War II and, by some criteria, possibly the largest naval battle in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leyte_Gulf

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